Lmao Kylington is not a cap dump

Sure he is. He hasn’t played in a whole season.

For personal reasons, he's still better than ever defenseman currently on the Habs. You want him you pay up. You don't want to pay up you get lost

If that’s all it costs to get the 2OA pick then everyone would do it.

Paying a 2nd, 4th, for a washed 34 year old Mike Hoffman making $4.5m lmaooo we are better off keeping Granlund and Rutta then losing a 2nd and 4th in the process and just acquiring another cap dump for the season. No logic there

1. Not enough, to move up to 2nd
2. At the TDL Eddy likely gets a 2nd maybe a 1st depending on how his season goes but I don't see him being moved this summer for a pick, maybe the Pens do Ruuta for Eddy but IDK if that works.
3. Pens pass neither player is a cap dump and if they are then Eddy and Hoffman are too.
4. Kylington isn't a cap dump and Montreal has no need for him either.



You can't seriously think Kylington is better than Guhle, Matheson or Savard or Eddy for that matter depending on how healthy he is! He is more on the level of Harris and Xhekaj than those guys, either way he is redundant with our LHD depth already

Savard is bad. Kylington is definitely better than him, even if he hasn’t played for a year

Savard isn't bad he is just a shutdown guy who's value comes out during the playoffs when the checking gets tighter. There are guys who get you to the playoffs and guys who get you through the playoffs, Savard is the latter.

Guhle may be better some day but he absolutely isn't right now. He still has a lot of development to go
Ill give Matheson credit on having a solid bounceback year but he's still pretty average.
Savard and Edmundson are pretty subpar.
Harris has potential but hasn't reached it yet, same with Wifi

Kylington is definitely better than all of them right now assuming he slides right back in without missing much of a beat

That's a hell no from the Pens.

Nope, not enough to move up to 2OA.

Why is it a no from the Pens?

Granlund had a similar season to Hoffman and has a similar cost per year but Hoffman is 1 season to Granlund's 2. And they would take the albatross that is Rutta? I would make the 2nd and 4th into a 3rd but I would probably take that deal.

That would not work. Rutta hasn't been good but Edmundson has been really bad.

He’s not and half the league would have no reason to give you anything for him. If a contender were to send you a 3rd that’s about your best outcome.

Lol then Calgary won't sell their top 4 defenseman. Why would they?

Rutta’s year wasn’t ideal in Pittsburgh but he’s hardly an albatross. His cap hit is $2.75M and he’s fine as a third pairing D. On my list of Pens cap issues, he’s not a pressing issue.

Getting rid of 2 years worth of contracts we don’t need to take on one year of a bad contract is an easy yes.

No idea what you’re talking about because it’s an easy yes for us. We get rid of 10 million we owe useless Granlund and 5.5 million of Rutta that we can use to sign a younger defenseman. Hoffman is a no risk player. If he’s terrible we just put him on waivers. This is a steal for us and if anything not great for the Habs.

Guhle was consistently our best D man when he was in the lineup and was on pace to have a similar year points wise to Kylington but is way better defensively, younger and on a much better contract (ELC). For all these reasons he is the better defenseman right now and he will only get better. Matheson had a great bounce back year and even outscored Kylington in nearly half the games played, if he is only average than Kylington is waaay below average. Savard and Eddy play different roles than Kylington but they are both better defensively so you could argue they are on the same level. I used Xhekaj and Harris as comps since both are about the same age and are about equal right now defensively, although both are younger and going to get better but I still predict that they end up close to equal what Kylington is or will be.

Rutta is the only Pen's defenseman with a Corsi under 50%. He gives the puck up too much in his own zone. He isn't the worst player but I would prefer he play somewhere else.

Nope.

It’s really simple math. I see no reason to say no.

The hell are you taking about dude? Absolutely not the pens don’t take that….

You’re giving up a second and a fourth and Granlund (who we aren’t going to trade and pay to dump but you dimwits don’t want to hear any part of that) and Rutta (who also likely isn’t getting moved via trade and will be bought out or kept)

Oh and you’re getting back a $4.5m washed 33 year old Mike Hoffman who I already mentioned. Pens aren’t doing this and this trade isn’t happening.

I see so it’s all because you don’t like Hoffman. Nothing you said makes any sense unless we are rebuilding, which we aren’t. It’s simple math, it’s not even debatable how good that would be for us. Granlund absolutely sucks and we aren’t obligated to keep him because Ron Hextall made an awful trade.

Never said that in any of my statements, now you’re just looking to bark up something because your argument is invalid.

Granlund has played just 20 games with us, you sound brainless and completely ignorant for already claiming that he’s garbage and terrible. Sure, he has a bad tenure with us so far but he barely even knows the system and was thrown into a completely different play style under Sullivan. Of course it’s gonna take some time with a full training camp and off-season to prepare, hence why he won’t be moved after we payed a second rounder for him. (Again you boneheads don’t want to hear that part because apparently CapFriendly is just NHL 24 and you can trade anyone and everyone on your roster)

This has nothing to do with Hextall, I can almost guarantee if anything happens with Granlund it will be via buyout which I still doubt will happen, however no way we are paying 2 seconds (one being the one we traded and ANOTHER after just 20 games he played with us, to dump his $5m salary.) but have fun believing your uneducated fantasies