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Cat trades

Créé par: Sens_Fan33
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 8 mai 2023
Publié: 8 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Mazur, Carter
  2. Viro, Eemil
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
2.
OTT
  1. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
  2. Peterka, John-Jason
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
BUF
3.
OTT
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Beck, Owen
  3. Norlinder, Mattias
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
MTL
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1882 500 000 $77 095 713 $0 $2 135 000 $5 404 287 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
905 833 $905 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
885 000 $885 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2

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8 mai 2023 à 13 h 44
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Tough call for the Habs. I think they turn this down based on the fear of having too many small bodies in the top 6.
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8 mai 2023 à 13 h 48
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I really just want Cat to be traded to Arizona or something so that Ottawa fans can stop with all these horrible trades...
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8 mai 2023 à 13 h 52
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I really just want Cat to be traded to Arizona or something so that Ottawa fans can stop with all these horrible trades...


I think its more horrible that teams want him without giving up more than 1 okay piece and some throw ins
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8 mai 2023 à 14 h 0
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Quoting: Spaceman
I really just want Cat to be traded to Arizona or something so that Ottawa fans can stop with all these horrible trades...


youre the type of guy to think a 2nd rnd pick + 3rd liner is suffice for cat..
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 8
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I think its more horrible that teams want him without giving up more than 1 okay piece and some throw ins


Your main piece is the 2023 17th overall pick (NYI).
Carter Mazur is not a throw in nor is he an okay piece. Dude is legit and is penciled in as a Red Wing next season.
I have no issues watching Cat sign a 1 year 9 million dollar contract in Ottawa next year and have him float on defense for the Sens and if Detroit wants him they can just until he's a UFA.
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 13
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youre the type of guy to think a 2nd rnd pick + 3rd liner is suffice for cat..


I'm the type of guy who doesn't want him because he doesn't help teams win. Scores 2 goals for and then 3 go in your own net as a direct result of his horrible dzone play. He was at his best when an elite Patrick Kane was feeding him pucks. There's no elite Patrick Kane type on Detroit's roster. He simply won't help the Wings win anymore than Patrick Laine helps the Blue Jackets win. Just an overpriced guy who will pop 25 in for you and float everywhere else....Ottawa fans are just pissed they won't be getting back what they paid for him.
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 14
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Your main piece is the 2023 17th overall pick (NYI).
Carter Mazur is not a throw in nor is he an okay piece. Dude is legit and is penciled in as a Red Wing next season.
I have no issues watching Cat sign a 1 year 9 million dollar contract in Ottawa next year and have him float on defense for the Sens and if Detroit wants him they can just until he's a UFA.


doubt Ottawa is doing that. Theyd move him at the draft to a team that will sign him longterm. Mazur/Berggren and 18th is pretty similar to Faber and a 1st that Minny got for Fiala
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8 mai 2023 à 14 h 17
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doubt Ottawa is doing that. Theyd move him at the draft to a team that will sign him longterm. Mazur/Berggren and 18th is pretty similar to Faber and a 1st that Minny got for Fiala


I'd do Berggren/Mazur and the 17th for Fiala. i'd take Fiala over Cat 100 times out of 100 chances. Becuase he's a better overall complete player.
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 18
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doubt Ottawa is doing that. Theyd move him at the draft to a team that will sign him longterm. Mazur/Berggren and 18th is pretty similar to Faber and a 1st that Minny got for Fiala


Dorion is already on record saying if they can't trade him they will qualify him at 1 year 9 million.
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8 mai 2023 à 14 h 19
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Dorion is already on record saying if they can't trade him they will qualify him at 1 year 9 million.


well the qualifying offer wouldnt allow them to sign depth so i doubt it happens
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 25
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well the qualifying offer wouldnt allow them to sign depth so i doubt it happens


If there is no trade partner willing to give the Sens what they want then they have no choice but to do this or he becomes a UFA and he comes to Detroit and the Sens get nothing. All other 31 teams know this. Ottawa has very little leverage to command a 1st AND a very good young player on a cheap contract in return. (ie: Berggren/Mazur).
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 26
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If there is no trade partner willing to give the Sens what they want then they have no choice but to do this or he becomes a UFA and he comes to Detroit and the Sens get nothing. All other 31 teams know this. Ottawa has very little leverage to command a 1st AND a very good young player on a cheap contract in return. (ie: Berggren/Mazur).


the leverage is that a whole host of teams want cat...
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 32
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the leverage is that a whole host of teams want cat...


Those other teams can have him then and they can give up too much for an overpriced floater. I’d much rather keep the 17th overall and turn that pick into one of Colby Barlow, Matthew Wood, Riley Heidt, Nate Danielson, Samuel Honzek, Brayden Yager, Gabe Perreault. There’s no way I’m giving up one of those guys AND a current top prospect or young player to our direct competition.
8 mai 2023 à 14 h 59
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the leverage is that a whole host of teams want cat...


Not at a 9 million cap hit. Thats the kicker, the leverage isn't with the Sens or any acquiring team but with DeBrincat himself. If he says no long term in OTT and also wants a "market rate" deal you are not going to have a ton of suitors for that.

Also I am with Yzerman's plan with the rebuild, which is don't rush it and moving the 1st and or Mazur seems counter to that. I understand takes the Red Wings out of a DeBrincat trade but so be it.
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