Dude..

Neither John Gibson nor Jeff Carter is going anywhere.

@GiggywithGibby it’s time

Buffalo accepts

They don’t want a 35 year old defenseman that has a high cap hit.

Can't see Carter waiving for Chicago but if he did I think the Hawks probably accept. They'd just buy Carter out so he could sign wherever he wanted.

Guy still plays 22min a night, averages over a 100 blocked shots, and almost threw 200 hits last year and had what 30pts or so. We can afford his Cap hit for 2yrs. He would be a good partner for Power.

I know he’s still pretty good, but they don’t want to move on from Jokiharju.

Why does he make you move on from Joker. I would keep Joker, just think playing 3rd pair wouldn't hurt him for now

We can afford his cap hit, however I don't see him as a good partner for Power. Power at this point struggles defensively and that is the weakest part of Petry's game. He is terrible at zone entry denials and he has struggled recently with zone exits as well. We need a strong defensively minded partner for Power and that is not Petry

Can't say I watched a lot of him, but his numbers say he wasn't bad, especially getting over 55% Dzone starts.

I agree with the premise. Pittsburgh cannot rebuild, and they don't want to while they still have Sid, Geno, Tanger, and Jake. I don't like a lot of the moves, though.

I don't think we can move Petry or Carter. I'd love to replace them with better, younger players. But I can't see BJC waiving his NMC for any reason, and I can't see Petry waiving his NTC for any team that has any reason to take him. I still think we can make Petry work if we add a 2nd legit top 4 LHD. Pair Petry with Pettersson, or get Graves or Gavrikov or trade for someone to play alongside him. I'd personally prefer Graves, but Gavrikov works as well.

John Gibson does not make this team better than Jarry. He has been below average in save percent and goals saved above expected (which takes into account that Anaheim has sucked for the past few seasons, especially defensively). Jarry has been elite more recently than Gibson and wouldn't require giving up assets to keep. Fairly certain he also doesn't want to leave Anaheim, so the deal benefits no parties involved.

I'd rather let in DOC, Nylander, and give shots to Poulin and Puustinen than keep Heinen and Bonino, and sign Hinnestroza. Those guys don't really add much to this team, and stifle the youth in our system. We need to get younger if we are to compete. Kampf and Engvall in the bottom 6 I think would bring more to the table than those three, so I don't mind them. If I want a 4th line grinder where Hinnestroza is, Garnet Hathaway shouldn't be much more expensive.

He got those starts because he was paired with one of the better defensive defenseman in the league in Pettersson who is the type of defenseman the Sabres should be looking to pair Power with

Really, why did Petry average more ice time, his Dzone starts where Higher To. Maybe they helped each other out ?

Petry averaged more ice time due to running PP2 for Pittsburgh. He averaged 2.2 minutes per game more on the Pp than Pettersson which equals their difference 8n ice time. He would not be getting any of that PP time in Buffalo behind Dahls and Power. Their done start percentage is negligible about 1.5 percent. Both had slightly higher dzone starts than ozone. I am more interested in what the players did relative to their deployments rather than how the pens chose to use them

Very True, but if he's getting more time on the PP so that means his Dzone starts are probably even higher if if you take away the PP Time. Petry would not be my 1st choice and think even if they did this it wouldn't be until closer to FA so they have a better handle on the D situation after the draft and maybe a different trade. If the Sabres happen to draft say Reinbacher than Petry isn't a bad 2yr add for futures. Especially if the bonus is paid already, basically paying 5m in actual Salary

Agree to disagree. I think he is barely an upgrade over Jokiharju for what we need

Joker doesn't bring half the blocked shots or even half the hits Petry would bring. Joker is very inconsistent to me, will look great for a few games but then plays like crap for a bunch. Going down to 3rd pair and steadying his game playing 16m instead on 22 will help him. Hell maybe in a year he steady's his game and becomes the 22-23min muncher, but he's not ready for it yet.

Believe me I am no fan of Hank, but as you can tell I am no fan of Petry either. Hits don't matter to me nor do blocked shots that much either. I prefer someone who is better at simply preventing the other team from getting shots off. Preventing zone entries and excelling at zone exits and maintaining puck possession

OK, then Petry is better there, his Fenwick and Corsi are better and so is his PDO. He's not my 1st choice, but if it comes to a short term fix, he's free in this scenario with decent numbers.

He's not free. He has a significant cap number and is at a point age wise where his game could easily fall off a cliff at any point. The cap hit likely would be no issue 23-24, but 24-25 when new deals are on the cap for

Petry is better but not free. He has a significant cap number and very possibly could have his game fall off a cliff at any point at his age especially if he is logging top 4 minutes. His cap number would not likely be an issue in 23-24, but in 24-25 when Power, Dahlin, Mitts, and Krebs will all be under new deals that # could really be a problem

He has been pretty steady the last Couple Years, and yes his game could fall, just like anyone else. He won't be getting the PP minutes in Buffalo so that should help in that aspect. And yes his Cap hit could hurt in 24-25, but the Sabres also have a very good chance of having atleast 6 guys on ELC's or 1st contracts that year. Plus if the bonus is paid Pegula will actually be paying him almost 2mill under his Cap hit for the last 2yrs. Like I have stated not my 1st choice and would only do this around FA when I know what my D situation is. If things haven't fallen the way we hoped and we weren't able to land something we wanted. Then this wouldn't be a bad backup option short term.

1.5 under his cap number on average 1.75 and 1.25 respectively. I don't think with the building likely being full in the next couple of years their will be the same kind of squeeze on actual cash being paid out anymore, but obviously the cap number is fixed each year.

You are probably right about Cash, but to me if things haven't worked out D wise like we hope, this isn't a bad short term solution. I think Adams is gonna bring in a good Dman, but things happen.