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Créé par: fil97

Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 1 mai 2023

Publié: 1 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

1st line: they were really good this year don't touch it.
2nd line: geno and bertuzzi would be a nasty combo, third spot is for Nylander, Poulin and puusty to fight for.
3rd line: best third line since HBK?
4th line: solid defensively an much much speed.

(second and third line can vary based on what geno wants another option I can see is zuck-g-bertuzzi)

1st pair: the two best dmen on the team who showed good chemistry last year.
2nd pair: adding a very good shut down dman to help petry with his 5on5 defence. (we need bounce back year from him). also if graves wants too much or resigns we go for Soucy
3rd pair: I see poj taking another step this offseason just in terms of growing strength and giving him another shut down D that can use the body well.

goalies: hallybuck is a huge improvement, we give up a lot but I think the jets might go for this. new goalie of the future plus a very promising D

taxi squad: depth in Wilkes

also sign hornqvist on wbs and call him up for palyoffs just to fire up guys lol ALSO lets monitor the flower situation

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Poehling, Ryan	3	1 000 000 $
O'Connor, Drew	3	1 000 000 $
Puustinen, Valtteri	1	800 000 $
Smith, Ty	1	800 000 $
McLeod, Ryan	1	3 000 000 $
Lindberg, Filip	1	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Zucker, Jason	4	4 000 000 $
Bertuzzi, Tyler	6	6 000 000 $
Mayfield, Scott	3	2 000 000 $
Graves, Ryan	3	4 757 000 $
Sundqvist, Oskar	1	1 775 000 $
Simmonds, Wayne	1	775 000 $
Archibald, Josh	1	775 000 $
Caggiula, Drake	1	775 000 $
Tokarski, Dustin	1	775 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
McLeod, Ryan	3 000 000 $	Choix de 2e ronde en 2024

Transactions

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)

CBJ

Granlund, Mikael

PIT

Hellebuyck, Connor (3 000 000 $ retained)

WPG

Blomqvist, Joel
Smith, Ty
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

PIT

Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CGY)

Détails additionnels:

ANY TEAM

SEA

Rutta, Jan

Détails additionnels:

ANY TEAM

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 916 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 500 000 $	76 834 259 $	0 $	0 $	6 665 741 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Bertuzzi, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Nylander, Alexander 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Zucker, Jason 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	McLeod, Ryan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C RFA - 2	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Sundqvist, Oskar 1 775 000 $1 775 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Hellebuyck, Connor 3 166 667 $3 166 667 $ G NMC UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan 4 757 000 $4 757 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	DeSmith, Casey 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 825 000 $825 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Mayfield, Scott 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA - 7

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Poulin, Samuel 863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG RFA - 1
Puustinen, Valtteri 800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 1
Archibald, Josh 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 2
Caggiula, Drake 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, AD UFA - 2
Simmonds, Wayne 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA
Friedman, Mark 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG/DD UFA - 1
Pickering, Owen 918 333 $918 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG RFA - 3
Fedun, Taylor 762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 1
Ouellet, Xavier 762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG/DD UFA - 1
Lindberg, Filip 900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G RFA
Tokarski, Dustin 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rakell, R.		Crosby, S.		Guentzel, J.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Bertuzzi, T.		McLeod, R.		Rust, B.
	Zucker, J.		Petry, J.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Poehling, R.	Rust, B.
	Graves, R.	Mayfield, S.

Infériorité numérique 2
	McLeod, R.	Sundqvist, O.
	Pettersson, M.	Petry, J.

1 mai 2023 à 8 h 29

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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That offer, Doesn't even come close to getting Connor Hellebuyck out of Winnipeg, I truly doubt they even have the pieces to land him.

1 mai 2023 à 8 h 55

SK101

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Find a different team for granlund

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1 mai 2023 à 9 h 14

littlejerryseinfeld

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This isn't a real contender

1 mai 2023 à 10 h 0

HulkVader

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Granlund is tradeable, but not like that. You’ll have to take money back on a contract another team wants to move. For a straight cap dump like that you’d have to sweeten the deal with a pick. Not a first, like some of the dullards around here think, but it ain’t gonna be for free, either, that’s for sure.

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1 mai 2023 à 10 h 1

JSEB93

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This team would be great. Not sure if WPG would accept that though - and EDM probably matches.

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1 mai 2023 à 10 h 27

fil97

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Quoting: JSEB93

This team would be great. Not sure if WPG would accept that though - and EDM probably matches.

I believe they would accept this deal if they really think of a retool. if they still feel they can compete with this roster prolly not. Blomqvist is one of the best goalie prospects we could also add another player like gurden, but goalies values are always less than people think.

if EDM matches (they will be really close to the cap) there are other options as 3C that can work as well Dvorak, roslovic etc.

Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

That offer, Doesn't even come close to getting Connor Hellebuyck out of Winnipeg, I truly doubt they even have the pieces to land him.

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1 mai 2023 à 10 h 31

fil97

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Quoting: HulkVader

Quoting: SK101

Find a different team for granlund

seeing some posts of here many cbj fans didn't mind him. he is obviously a place holder for the young kids to grow without burning them. they have the space, and he is still a serviceable player he is just overpaid by 2 mil. and can be traded at the TDL after this season.

and sure put a 3rd with him I don't mind.

1 mai 2023 à 10 h 32

fil97

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

This isn't a real contender

how is this not contender? what do you think they miss?

1 mai 2023 à 10 h 37

dopplsan

Nah.

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Quoting: fil97

It's gonna cost more than a 3rd.

1 mai 2023 à 10 h 38

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fil97

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Quoting: dopplsan

It's gonna cost more than a 3rd.

no way. he is not this bad of a player. and nobody is paying more than a 3rd for 2mil retention.

1 mai 2023 à 11 h 6

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SK101

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Quoting: fil97

no way. he is not this bad of a player. and nobody is paying more than a 3rd for 2mil retention.

He has two years left so 4 million. The jackets don’t really have a need for him if they get a top center in the draft. There’s also rumors they are getting Hayes at 5 million. They have plenty of guys who can play bottom 6 center

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1 mai 2023 à 11 h 23

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dopplsan

Nah.

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Quoting: fil97

no way. he is not this bad of a player. and nobody is paying more than a 3rd for 2mil retention.

I mean, I really wouldn't say he's that good, either.

As a player, not sure there is really any market for him. He's an overpaid B6 C with term. If you want to retain half, I think you could find a taker if you couple him with a 3rd. Full cost would be pushing a conditional 2nd, probably, depending on how desparate PIT is and what the market is like.

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1 mai 2023 à 11 h 29

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Quoting: dopplsan

yes, remember I try to trade to Columbus because I believe there is a fit there, anyhow Arizona exists, they will need to make the floor so a contract like this can't hurt them and we can pay a bit to get rid of him. we have to try and go all in for next year and the year after, after that the window will be closed for a while.

AND the buyout costs only 800k so worse case scenario we buy him out. PIT is not going to pay much to get rid of him

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1 mai 2023 à 11 h 30

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fil97

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Quoting: SK101

perffect we will just trade him to Arizona or buy him out

1 mai 2023 à 11 h 31

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Victor24

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Quoting: dopplsan

Quoting: SK101

Quoting: dopplsan

Granlund's numbers indicate he is a perfectly adequate 3rd liner. He is overpaid by about 2MM but he is productive enough that it wouldn't take more than 2MM retention or a low 3rd attached to him to move.

I have the numbers, he's not as bad as everyone says. He is overpaid and Hextall gave up a 2nd for him because he sucks at his job.

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1 mai 2023 à 11 h 32

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dopplsan

Nah.

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Quoting: fil97

Oh, I agree on all counts. There is a fit with CBJ, sure, but with where the team is at in its rebuild, I'm just not sure Granlund is a player they'd go chasing. Plus, I know Hextall was a mess, but it's also the optics of throwing more bad money around, so to speak.

How bad is PIT's cap situation next year?

1 mai 2023 à 11 h 33

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Victor24

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That would be too much for Hellebuyck unless he came with an extension. He had a good season but last year was just ok and he had a poor playoff.

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1 mai 2023 à 11 h 36

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fil97

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Quoting: dopplsan

Oh, I agree on all counts. There is a fit with CBJ, sure, but with where the team is at in its rebuild, I'm just not sure Granlund is a player they'd go chasing.

How bad is PIT's cap situation next year?

it is not bad we have a bunch of cap space and his 5 mil will be great to have. look at the thread, I resigned zucker at 4 and then signed: bertuzzi 6 mcleod 3 sunqvist 2 mayfield 2 helleybuck 3 greaves 5

we have room for one last 2years push

1 mai 2023 à 17 h 4

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Rurik766

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Haven't read it all, but the discussions around Granlund are kind of absurd. Yes, Hextal made a bad trade, but lets not forget that Granlund was just traded for a 2nd. Sure he scored one goal with the Pens, but ~20 games with a new team, in a new city is not enough to crater a players value from a 2nd to needing a 2nd or 3rd to dump him. There is definitely a team that would gladly take a versatile forward that can play all three positions, has some offence (career best 69pts, never played for a high offence team before) and can work on the pk. My prediction for him is that someone will take him on for as low as a 7th or as high as a 4th.

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3 mai 2023 à 11 h 28

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fil97

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Quoting: Rurik766

completely agree with you, people will be surprised when we are not going to pay to get rid of him

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