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Créé par: ht42
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 29 mars 2023
Publié: 29 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If the Jets match the OS: he will play one season and will sign with MTL at the 2024 free agency. Also, Winnipeg can't trade him during the season because Dubois signed a OS.

If the Jets didn't match the OS: Winnipeg will receive a 2024 3rd round pick and Dubois will be a Montreal Canadiens. Afterward, during the season, he will sign a 8 years extension.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 100 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Dubois, Pierre-Luc2 100 000 $
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $62 059 166 $1 170 000 $4 752 500 $20 440 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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897 500 $897 500 $ (Bonis de performance557 500 $$558K)
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RFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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29 mars 2023 à 20 h 13
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. PLD doesn't sign it and takes the QO one year for 6m. Jets keep him for one year instead of taking a third rounder (if he did sign the offer sheet), and then PLD signs just 7 year contract as a UFA.
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29 mars 2023 à 20 h 17
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. PLD doesn't sign it and takes the QO one year for 6m. Jets keep him for one year instead of taking a third rounder (if he did sign the offer sheet), and then PLD signs just 7 year contract as a UFA.


The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.
29 mars 2023 à 20 h 18
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Quoting: palhal
. PLD doesn't sign it and takes the QO one year for 6m. Jets keep him for one year instead of taking a third rounder (if he did sign the offer sheet), and then PLD signs just 7 year contract as a UFA.


i guess the option to trade him or the the QO would not be possivle if he sign the OS. (but thats never gonna happen so its a moot point)
29 mars 2023 à 20 h 27
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The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.


The problem in your scenario, is the Jets would rather have second line centre for 23/24 instead of a third rounder. Jets can still trade him for more than a third rounder at TDL if they are sellers if he QOed.
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29 mars 2023 à 20 h 34
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The problem in your scenario, is the Jets would rather have second line centre for 23/24 instead of a third rounder. Jets can still trade him for more than a third rounder at TDL if they are sellers if he QOed.


The problem is the Jets doesn't want to lose him without a return at free agency, because they know that Dubois doesn't want anymore playing for the Jets, but for the Canadiens.
29 mars 2023 à 20 h 35
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The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.


Quoting: palhal
The problem in your scenario, is the Jets would rather have second line centre for 23/24 instead of a third rounder. Jets can still trade him for more than a third rounder at TDL if they are sellers if he QOed.


Quoting: drambui
i guess the option to trade him or the the QO would not be possivle if he sign the OS. (but thats never gonna happen so its a moot point)


You guys realize that WPG can just file for team initiated salary Arbitration and it blocks any team for Offer sheeting him or contacting him right?

That's what happened with Matthew Tkachuk , Teams file arbitration before FA begins, so MTL wouldn't even be allowed to speak with him
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29 mars 2023 à 20 h 45
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You guys realize that WPG can just file for team initiated salary Arbitration and it blocks any team for Offer sheeting him or contacting him right?

That's what happened with Matthew Tkachuk , Teams file arbitration before FA begins, so MTL wouldn't even be allowed to speak with him


I think they also need the autorisation of the player for making that, and Tkachuck sign his contract extesion just before he got traded.
29 mars 2023 à 20 h 53
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Asking Dubois or anyone for that matter to take a 4 million dollar pay cut out of the goodness of their heart is funny.

The audacity!
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29 mars 2023 à 21 h 0
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The problem is the Jets doesn't want to sign another QO for Dubois, same thing for him.


Jets dont have a choice they HAVE to offer him his QO or he becomes a UFA
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30 mars 2023 à 7 h 15
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You guys realize that WPG can just file for team initiated salary Arbitration and it blocks any team for Offer sheeting him or contacting him right?

That's what happened with Matthew Tkachuk , Teams file arbitration before FA begins, so MTL wouldn't even be allowed to speak with him


How would you explain this then?



"If the team elects arbitration, the player can still sign an offer sheet with another team prior to July 5 at 5pm, which would negate the team elected arbitration. The Team must elect the arbitration by 5pm on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals ends."

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/arbitration
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30 mars 2023 à 21 h 38
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How would you explain this then?


BY referencing this article from NHL.com

https://www.nhl.com/news/calgary-flames-file-for-salary-arbitration-with-matthew-tkachuk/c-335031908

"By doing so, Tkachuk, a restricted free agent, is unable to receive an offer sheet from another team."

Honestly, I am not an expert in Arbitrration or offer sheets,
So I can't say I am right or you are right (seems to be conflicting info out there)

I just remembered everyone talking about Tkachuk not being able to receive an offer-sheet because of the team elected arbitration
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