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Leafs blow it up Thought Exercise Only

Créé par: Hockey_Hippy
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 mars 2023
Publié: 18 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
For the record I do not think MLSE moves on from the Leafs braintrust and none of this will happen. But what the hell, let's say they do and bring in someone who has nothing invested in the current roster. I dealt Rielly to likely the only place he would sign off on and returned Matthews to Arizona because he is an instant re-tool in terms of assets garnered. Provorov is a UFA in two seasons. If he works out great, if he doesn't he is off the books in two years and the Leafs have plenty of cap space and assets to find a defensive defenseman for the playoffs if they need to.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3850 000 $
3850 000 $
3850 000 $
3850 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
2800 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
34 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
84 500 000 $
34 500 000 $
1775 000 $
2850 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Cooley, Logan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (ARI)
2.
TOR
  1. Garland, Conor (950 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
3.
TOR
  1. Provorov, Ivan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de BOS
Logo de ARI
Logo de FLA
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de MTL
Logo de WSH
Logo de NYI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de ARI
Logo de VAN
Logo de PHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CHI
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $72 591 200 $0 $0 $10 908 800 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
834 167 $834 167 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1

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18 mars 2023 à 10 h 13
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You're not getting Cooley he's untouchable. If matthews wants to leave he's a ufa next season and can sign for free simple as that
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18 mars 2023 à 10 h 16
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Canucks pass easily
18 mars 2023 à 10 h 18
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Quoting: Howie
You're not getting Cooley he's untouchable. If matthews wants to leave he's a ufa next season and can sign for free simple as that


What if he doesn't want to leave. There is nothing to indicate he does but wishful thinking on the part of Arizona fans. Everything he has said and done indicates he likes Toronto and wants to stay here.

But again, like I detailed in the description, this is a thought exercise. I do not expect any of this to happen.
18 mars 2023 à 10 h 18
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Canucks pass easily


Were anyone but Aquillini your GM, I'd agree with you.
18 mars 2023 à 10 h 24
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What if he doesn't want to leave. There is nothing to indicate he does but wishful thinking on the part of Arizona fans. Everything he has said and done indicates he likes Toronto and wants to stay here.

But again, like I detailed in the description, this is a thought exercise. I do not expect any of this to happen.


Any expected return for Matthews should be based on something similar to what EK65 got Ottawa (excluding the pick being top 5 specifically)
18 mars 2023 à 10 h 56
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Nothing in for Arizona. I can't imagine Matthews signing long term with Arizona
18 mars 2023 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: Hockey_Hippy
What if he doesn't want to leave. There is nothing to indicate he does but wishful thinking on the part of Arizona fans. Everything he has said and done indicates he likes Toronto and wants to stay here.

But again, like I detailed in the description, this is a thought exercise. I do not expect any of this to happen.


He has a full nmc next year so he's either staying or going none of this bs trades that make no sense to any team
18 mars 2023 à 11 h 14
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Were anyone but Aquillini your GM, I'd agree with you.


Not our GM. Owner. It's worse because he can't be fired. In all fairness though, I get how he wants the team to win.
Also, no shot we'd do that. We already have 2 LD making more than 7 mil a season.
18 mars 2023 à 11 h 26
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Canucks say no
18 mars 2023 à 11 h 29
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Why is Arizona going after rentals? Are they expecting to challenge for the Cup next year?
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18 mars 2023 à 11 h 47
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Canucks easily decline. Don’t have the cap space or roster space for Rielly. He’s also an offensively minded defenseman, which the Canucks already have too many of.

Also zero chance Arizona does that. You’re asking them to give up what is most likely 3 top 5 picks plus more for a rental when they are still clearly a rebuilding team. If Matthews wants to go to Arizona and Arizona wants Matthews, it will be a free agent signing next offseason.
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18 mars 2023 à 11 h 51
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Reilly has a bad contract
18 mars 2023 à 12 h 4
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Quoting: Howie
You're not getting Cooley he's untouchable. If matthews wants to leave he's a ufa next season and can sign for free simple as that


I don't get people who say this. If Matthews isn't signed this offseason they will not let him walk. So no, it's really not as simple as that. & Arizona management and ownership finally having someone to market and push that market over the top in terms of publicity....yeah, no, I don't think anyone would be "untouchable". Nobody is ever untouchable.
18 mars 2023 à 12 h 17
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I don't get people who say this. If Matthews isn't signed this offseason they will not let him walk. So no, it's really not as simple as that. & Arizona management and ownership finally having someone to market and push that market over the top in terms of publicity....yeah, no, I don't think anyone would be "untouchable". Nobody is ever untouchable.


Why would toronto trade him and make their team worse so they can ensure they don't lose him for nothing. Matthews is an insane player and would be a detrimental to trade in terms of playoffs so I see it 2 ways
1 he signs in toronto for a major contract and effects the future spending of the team.
2 he leaves after next year and signs in Arizona (or wherever) for a major contract where the pressure is less and close to home.

The fact is no one is trading for him when he can leave after 1 year. Toronto won't trade him because they want to keep him and his nmc starting next year will ensure Matthews gets what he wants. The fact of the matter is matthews has all the leverage in where he goes and no team will pay full price for him period.
18 mars 2023 à 12 h 21
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Quoting: Hockey_Hippy
Were anyone but Aquillini your GM, I'd agree with you.


Not only do we not have the cap space to make that trade, we also don't need Morgan Reilly...
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Any expected return for Matthews should be based on something similar to what EK65 got Ottawa (excluding the pick being top 5 specifically)


I'd expect it to be Eichel Plus Plus.

Eichel plus a 3rd netted Buffalo the following: Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, a top 10 protected first-round pick in the 2022 NHL Draft and a second-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft.

Given the vast differences between Eichel and Matthews, you can probably expect a similar gap in the package.
18 mars 2023 à 15 h 34
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Why would toronto trade him and make their team worse so they can ensure they don't lose him for nothing. Matthews is an insane player and would be a detrimental to trade in terms of playoffs so I see it 2 ways
1 he signs in toronto for a major contract and effects the future spending of the team.
2 he leaves after next year and signs in Arizona (or wherever) for a major contract where the pressure is less and close to home.

The fact is no one is trading for him when he can leave after 1 year. Toronto won't trade him because they want to keep him and his nmc starting next year will ensure Matthews gets what he wants. The fact of the matter is matthews has all the leverage in where he goes and no team will pay full price for him period.


Can you read? Look at the description. In case you do not feel the need to scroll up, I will put it here again:

"For the record I do not think MLSE moves on from the Leafs braintrust and none of this will happen. But what the hell, let's say they do and bring in someone who has nothing invested in the current roster. I dealt Rielly to likely the only place he would sign off on and returned Matthews to Arizona because he is an instant re-tool in terms of assets garnered. Provorov is a UFA in two seasons. If he works out great, if he doesn't he is off the books in two years and the Leafs have plenty of cap space and assets to find a defensive defenseman for the playoffs if they need to."
18 mars 2023 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: Juiceman
Not only do we not have the cap space to make that trade, we also don't need Morgan Reilly...


And if you owned the team, your opinion would count for something. But you do not and it does not. We all know who does and we all know what he thinks his opinion counts for.
18 mars 2023 à 16 h 5
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I'd expect it to be Eichel Plus Plus.

Eichel plus a 3rd netted Buffalo the following: Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, a top 10 protected first-round pick in the 2022 NHL Draft and a second-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft.

Given the vast differences between Eichel and Matthews, you can probably expect a similar gap in the package.


Eichel had 5 years of term. Matthews only has 1... Also the difference between Matthews and Eichel really isn't that large at all
18 mars 2023 à 17 h 19
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Canucks aren't trading a 1st and a 2nd for an expensive left shot offensive defenceman
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18 mars 2023 à 17 h 19
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And if you owned the team, your opinion would count for something. But you do not and it does not. We all know who does and we all know what he thinks his opinion counts for.


Lol your opinion means nothing either because you don’t own the team. If you really knew our owner, you’d know that he is a pretty cheap guy. Even if he wanted to trade for Reilly, the Canucks simply cannot. No cap space means no trade
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18 mars 2023 à 17 h 27
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And if you owned the team, your opinion would count for something. But you do not and it does not. We all know who does and we all know what he thinks his opinion counts for.


So your opinion is equal to his which makes this whole agm pointless
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18 mars 2023 à 18 h 36
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Quoting: Howie
He has a full nmc next year so he's either staying or going none of this bs trades that make no sense to any team


Learn to speak the language man.
18 mars 2023 à 18 h 44
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Quoting: Howie
So your opinion is equal to his which makes this whole agm pointless


I think if the owner wants something done, it gets done. And judging by what has happened in Vancouver in the past when what is done at behest of ownership doesn't work, the front office gets thrown under the bus.

I mean you're right. My opinion means squat, but Aquillini's does. And he has repeatedly shown that shiny baubles excite him. Rielly is not nothing. What he does, he does well. His career shows this. This year does not.

But sure hotshot tell me about how much you know about his game based on the bloody stat sheet.
18 mars 2023 à 18 h 49
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Lol your opinion means nothing either because you don’t own the team. If you really knew our owner, you’d know that he is a pretty cheap guy. Even if he wanted to trade for Reilly, the Canucks simply cannot. No cap space means no trade


You folks are under the impression that

A) I want this to happen and B) I think this will happen

You are mistaken
 
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