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Trading Bedard

Créé par: Capitalfail67
Équipe: 2023-24 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2023
Publié: 15 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
So dumb to do this but what would a team pay?

Draft Order
1)Washington
2)CBJ - Adam Fantill
3) Sharks
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draft
#3oa - Michkov
#30oa- Musty
#34oa- Noah Dower Nilsson
#61oa -Willander
#64oa- Gajan
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
63 000 000 $
62 750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Michkov, Matvei
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
WSH
  1. Heimosalmi, Aleksi
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
3 Way trade:

Capitals - 1st

AZ - 2nd + Heimosalmi to retain 2.8m of is contract.

Carolina - Kuzy at 5mx2y
2.
WSH
    retained salary
    ARI
    1. Heimosalmi, Aleksi
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
    3.
    WSH
    1. Eklund, William
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
    #3oa, Eklund, #34oa
    SJS
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
    Détails additionnels:
    1oa - Bedard
    4.
    5.
    WSH
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
    Détails additionnels:
    #61oa & #64oa
    ANA
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
    Détails additionnels:
    #43oa
    6.
    WSH
    1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
    OTT
    1. Alexeyev, Alexander [Droits de RFA]
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
    7.
    VAN
    1. Mantha, Anthony
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
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    2025
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    Logo de COL
    Logo de BOS
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    Logo de WSH
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2283 500 000 $76 535 834 $20 000 $932 500 $6 964 166 $
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    AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
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    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Sharks de San Jose
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AG
    RFA - 3
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    5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
    AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    796 667 $796 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
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    9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
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    789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    AD, AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    762 500 $762 500 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DG/DD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Capitals de Washington
    762 500 $762 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1

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    15 mars 2023 à 17 h 56
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    Oh jeez, I don't think anything you'd get back would make up for trading away Bedard lol. That dude is likely going to be a Hall of Fame player, who can literally step in and be a First line PPG Center day one.
    15 mars 2023 à 18 h 23
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    how the hell can you possibly justify trading Bedard? Michkov/Carlson & Eklund are nowhere near being worth Bedard. This is the kind of move that would get a GM assassinated
    15 mars 2023 à 18 h 24
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    if they trade the bedard pick they need to be getting back an all-star level player in addition to the picks, eklund ain't that
    15 mars 2023 à 18 h 27
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    Canes accept
    15 mars 2023 à 18 h 32
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    How do they get to #1 spot to begin with?

    They are currently #12 and can only move 10 spots.
    15 mars 2023 à 18 h 41
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    Not Bedard related but TOR accepts your deal.
    15 mars 2023 à 19 h 21
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    Quoting: CalvinKlein
    Oh jeez, I don't think anything you'd get back would make up for trading away Bedard lol. That dude is likely going to be a Hall of Fame player, who can literally step in and be a First line PPG Center day one.


    Quoting: TheRevanchist17
    how the hell can you possibly justify trading Bedard? Michkov/Carlson & Eklund are nowhere near being worth Bedard. This is the kind of move that would get a GM assassinated


    Quoting: qc14
    if they trade the bedard pick they need to be getting back an all-star level player in addition to the picks, eklund ain't that


    I would totally move Bedard for the correct price. I honestly think it’s a genius move. How many “once in a life time” players are now “busts”. Maybe target a better player than Eklund but he could also turn out to be a Forsberg type. They have very comparable stats.

    I’ll do comparable

    Eklund - Forsberg
    Michkov - Ovechkin /Kaprizov (better stats than Ovi)
    #34oa- could be a great players as well

    Bedard - Mcdavid /Crosby

    Look at it like this. Would you trade

    Ovechkin (pretend he’s young 18yo) Forsberg for Mcdavid

    Ton of people are sleeping on Michkov. Huge mistake
    15 mars 2023 à 19 h 27
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    I'm not even sure Grier wants Bedard. No way anyone is getting Eklund. Keep dreaming
    15 mars 2023 à 19 h 28
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    Quoting: DogDayCaps2
    I would totally move Bedard for the correct price. I honestly think it’s a genius move. How many “once in a life time” players are now “busts”. Maybe target a better player than Eklund but he could also turn out to be a Forsberg type. They have very comparable stats.

    I’ll do comparable

    Eklund - Forsberg
    Michkov - Ovechkin /Kaprizov (better stats than Ovi)
    #34oa- could be a great players as well

    Bedard - Mcdavid /Crosby

    Look at it like this. Would you trade

    Ovechkin (pretend he’s young 18yo) Forsberg for Mcdavid

    Ton of people are sleeping on Michkov. Huge mistake


    I would NOT do a young OV and Forsberg for McDavid, and thats from a WSH perspective. And no, the ONLY player who has been hyped up as much as Bedard who has ever flopped was Alexader Daigl, and thats bcuz he had no drive, we already know how motivated Bedard is so there's no worry there. Any price thats worth Bedard would be too much for the other team to give up as he is still 18 and theres a chance injuries can derail his development.
    CalvinKlein a aimé ceci.
    15 mars 2023 à 19 h 43
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    San Jose isn’t trading an A prospect, 3 oa and 34th oa to move up two spots
    15 mars 2023 à 19 h 51
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    Quoting: glarson17
    San Jose isn’t trading an A prospect, 3 oa and 34th oa to move up two spots


    I bet a lot they would. I mean you’d be the dumbest human in the world not to…
    15 mars 2023 à 19 h 56
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    Quoting: TheRevanchist17
    I would NOT do a young OV and Forsberg for McDavid, and thats from a WSH perspective. And no, the ONLY player who has been hyped up as much as Bedard who has ever flopped was Alexader Daigl, and thats bcuz he had no drive, we already know how motivated Bedard is so there's no worry there. Any price thats worth Bedard would be too much for the other team to give up as he is still 18 and theres a chance injuries can derail his development.


    Interesting. Young Ovechkin who scored 50 and had 106p as a rookie? I swear people forget how amazing he was. He had 269g his first 5 years in the NHL lol. If Michkov can become a KK or Ovechkin and Eklund and become a 70p guy I’m taking them both over McDavid all day. Now we are talking potential of course so that’s where risk is involved. Bedard is guaranteed to be elite level
    15 mars 2023 à 20 h 25
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    Quoting: DogDayCaps2
    I would totally move Bedard for the correct price. I honestly think it’s a genius move. How many “once in a life time” players are now “busts”. Maybe target a better player than Eklund but he could also turn out to be a Forsberg type. They have very comparable stats.

    I’ll do comparable

    Eklund - Forsberg
    Michkov - Ovechkin /Kaprizov (better stats than Ovi)
    #34oa- could be a great players as well

    Bedard - Mcdavid /Crosby

    Look at it like this. Would you trade

    Ovechkin (pretend he’s young 18yo) Forsberg for Mcdavid

    Ton of people are sleeping on Michkov. Huge mistake


    People are sleeping on Michkov but he's not going to come to the NHL for at least another year.

    Eklund could definitely turn out to be a Forsberg level player but there is absolutely zero guarantee of that happening. He's actually put up incredibly similar stats as McMichael did in his 20yo season, to give Caps fans some perspective on just how wide the range on his career outcomes still is. Since 2000 you can really only say two 1oa guys were complete busts in Yakupov and DiPietro. RNH, Johnson, and Lafreniere haven't/don't seem like world beaters or even really all-stars but are/have been completely solid players and were not talked up as Bedard has been.

    The difference between Bedard and Fantilli or Michkov is basically that between McDavid and Eichel. No doubt Eichel is a great 1c on a very good team, but McDavid is literally having one of the best individual seasons of all time. Maybe getting a Forsberg level guy does not at all make up the difference between the two.
    16 mars 2023 à 0 h 2
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    I'm sorry but this is worse than everyone trying to trade for Wilson...
    16 mars 2023 à 1 h 56
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    Quoting: DogDayCaps2
    I bet a lot they would. I mean you’d be the dumbest human in the world not to…


    San Jose would be the dumbest in the world to not trade for him? Or Washington would be the dumbest to trade him…San Jose gets an elite player at 3 and keep their best prospect and 34th oa which will be another solid player
     
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