If the Habs pick in the top 2 then obviously Bedard or Fantilli would probably be on this roster, but I assume that's not happening.
Dubois trade breakdown
- The trade only works if Dubois acts a little bratty and makes it clear that he will sign nowhere but Montreal, and that he's ending up there no matter what. Otherwise MTL lose leverage and the Jets ask goes up.
- This is working with the assumption that Winnipeg wants to keep their window open and isn't going to start selling off assets.
- Anderson would be a great addition to the Jets middle-six, as long as they understand his game. He is a play driver with great straight line speed, but as such he tends to be somewhat individualistic when on the rush. He needs to play with more skilled players to involve him around the net when in the o-zone, something that he thrived with in his first season in MTL but hasn't gotten since.
- Edmundson needs to be healthy for the trade to go through.
- Edmundson (and defensemen like him) is starting to become massively undervalued by fans but I believe that GMs still see his value. He is a steady, physical, play-killing #4 defenseman that will shore up your top 4, with the keyword being steady. He is not the play driver on a top 4 pair, but he is very effective with a mobile partner in the d-zone and his type of game is extremely important in the playoffs as has been proven time and time again. Kills play well, and has a very good first pass. He definitely hasn't lost his ability to skate as he's aged. Plus, he's a two-time SC finalist (grrr intangibles grrr).
- I think that he can complement Morrissey, Pionk, and Schmidt nicely while being better defensively than Stanley and Dillon.
- This also doesn't saddle the Jets with an enormous financial commitment, they're only adding 500k to the salary cap when compared to the contract I gave Dubois (who would probably ask for even more in WPG), but that's also two roster spots vs just one. Edmundson's deal is only for one more year. If the season goes haywire, there will 100% be a market for him at the TDL and there would have been this year if he wasn't hurt. Anderson is a bigger risk with his term (4 years), but the Jets have the room and his deal will hurt less as the cap increases. He's a rare breed in the NHL, and he commands more money because of it. His buyout from 2025 is also manageable for a rebuilding team if necessary.
- Kidney is looking like a very solid B prospect with a middle-six future, but the caveat is that his high production is coming from the Q. If the Jets believe that some of his offense will translate to the next level, then he's got a good amount of value. If not, sub him out for another prospect.
- A 1st rounder that will probably land anywhere from 11-16. Very valuable. Can be used to pick a PLD replacement in a stacked draft for forwards or flipped for someone to replace his offense (ie. packaged with a spare dman for Reinhart?). Ditto for the 2nd.
I trade to make the trade fair in value considering the circumstances, without just throwing in any spare pieces we had. I acknowledge that I'm not a Jets fan and don't know their needs as well as I maybe should.
That is a terrible trade for us. Any trade for Dubois is a bad idea but to give up Kidney plus one of our firsts this year is just an awful idea. We have no need for Dubois.
That is a terrible trade for us. Any trade for Dubois is a bad idea but to give up Kidney plus one of our firsts this year is just an awful idea. We have no need for Dubois.
Ya, I think thats definitely an overpayment for an RFA, especially if he's "bratty" like you say. Not that I think Kidney is gonna be a superstar, but your giving up a top 6 in Anderson, a 1st, and basically two seconds.
An 8.5m offer sheet will be two 1sts, a 2nd, and 3rd. No trade for PLD as an RFA should be equal to that.
Anderson would be behind 6 other wingers on the Jets and had an awful contract for what would be a 4th liner on the Jets. He's has no value to the Jets.
Edmunson would be behind at least 3 and probably 4 Jets on the left side, is extensive and constantly injured. He has no value to Winnipeg.
Kidney, the first and a second are a good start, but the trade as it stands here is an automatic and easy no from Winnipeg.
All the trades heavily overvalue Montreal assets and are wishful thinking. All other teams decline easily.
-Winnipeg isn't taking back $9M in bottom-6/bottom-pair players. Kidney/1st/2nd starts it but they're going to want more if they're taking big cap hits back; otherwise they can just focus on extending PLD or potentially trading him as a rental next deadline. For every person saying that Montreal doesn't need to pay up when he might come there in UFA next summer, they're not wrong; but it doesn't mean that Winnipeg wouldn't find interest from a dozen other teams if they made PLD available, even as a one year rental.
-Wideman's got an extra year at $762K. Just bury him in Laval if you don't have a spot for him here, Arizona isn't in a spot to be giving up any sort of pick for a veteran.
-Just because Bergevin overpaid acquiring Dvorak doesn't mean another team is going to do the same. He's shown no growth throughout his career - he's basically going to be a 35-40 point player with okay defensive metrics best suited to be a 3C/PKer. Minnesota, in a cap crunch, isn't going to spend a 1st rounder to pay a third liner $4.45M.
-Buffalo trading Erik Portillo at the deadline should tell you everything you need to know Devon Levi's availability. They're not going to trade a goalie with his upside for a winger and a 4th round pick - they already have a nice stable of U23 wingers led by JJ Peterka & John Quinn, so Mesar doesn't really fill a need for them in the first place; plus, do you think they would want to trade a potential franchise goalie within their own division for this? Would the Habs trade Lane Hutson to the Bruins for Brett Harrison and a 4th rounder?
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