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Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2023
Publié: 7 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 750 000 $
46 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Parayko, Colton
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
STL
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Rosén, Isak
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
16th overall
2.
BUF
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Kostin, Klim [Droits de RFA]
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Olofsson, Victor (2 000 000 $ retained)
3.
BUF
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Pick 25
SJS
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Picks 36, 48, and 90
4.
BUF
  1. Trenin, Yakov
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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Logo de EDM
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de NYR
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Logo de BUF
2025
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Logo de BUF
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Logo de BUF
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 686 071 $0 $3 145 000 $5 813 929 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Predators de Nashville
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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7 mars 2023 à 16 h 20
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San Jose declines no real incentive to move down that much for that
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7 mars 2023 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: glarson17
San Jose declines no real incentive to move down that much for that


Moving down 11 spots to pick up 2 more top 100 picks doesn't seem like terrible value. Obviously if a guy they love is there they don't do this, but it isn't bad in terms of trading back imo.
7 mars 2023 à 16 h 33
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I think Grier keeps our picks this year particularly our 1st in a deep draft.
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7 mars 2023 à 16 h 38
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So edmonton gives up our entire bottom 6 plus two seconds for one player??
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7 mars 2023 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
So edmonton gives up our entire bottom 6 plus two seconds for one player??


Calm down
This dude is NOT a Sabres fan
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7 mars 2023 à 16 h 44
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NONE of these trades make much sense to me
Pass on all of them imo
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7 mars 2023 à 16 h 48
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yes
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7 mars 2023 à 17 h 8
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1. Pass, Parayko not worth that
2. Pass, don't need a ton of garbage
3. Sure.
4. N/A
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7 mars 2023 à 17 h 26
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Brian Lee Harvey Oswald definitely acted alone
7 mars 2023 à 17 h 26
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The Blues have accepted your trade offer.
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7 mars 2023 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: glarson17
San Jose declines no real incentive to move down that much for that


they have zero prospects so that is good incentive
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7 mars 2023 à 17 h 33
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
So edmonton gives up our entire bottom 6 plus two seconds for one player??


have you tried math
7 mars 2023 à 17 h 34
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Brian Lee Harvey Oswald definitely acted alone


I had friends
7 mars 2023 à 17 h 36
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Quoting: Brian_Lee_Harvey_Oswald
have you tried math


Devin Shore has one goal this year I dunno if I'd count him as a player (i still love him tho)
7 mars 2023 à 17 h 36
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Quoting: DangleCat
Moving down 11 spots to pick up 2 more top 100 picks doesn't seem like terrible value. Obviously if a guy they love is there they don't do this, but it isn't bad in terms of trading back imo.


Quoting: DangleCat
Moving down 11 spots to pick up 2 more top 100 picks doesn't seem like terrible value. Obviously if a guy they love is there they don't do this, but it isn't bad in terms of trading back imo.


While moving back 11 picks from 25-26 and pick up 3 top 100 picks is a perfectly fine value, this isnt the draft to do it and with 11+ picks already sharks aren't in a position to need picks, though I'm sure a few of the contenders left with 1sts but not much else might jump on that deal. I.E. COL, Florida, VGK etc.
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7 mars 2023 à 17 h 37
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Quoting: Brian_Lee_Harvey_Oswald
they have zero prospects so that is good incentive


actually we have a decent prospect group, what we need is high caliber and you don't get those trading back.
7 mars 2023 à 17 h 45
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Quoting: Blacktown
I think Grier keeps our picks this year particularly our 1st in a deep draft.


"Deep Draft" is a commonly misunderstood deal amongst fans. Deep means that there might be 10-12 guys that would go top 5 in most drafts rather than pick #25 is wildly more valuable in this draft than another draft.

I'd take this package and run if I were Grier. Difference between 25 and 36 when it comes to getting top end talent is basically meaningless. This way, you get 3 kicks at the can of finding a good player in that range rather than 1. Comparing the 2015 Draft (deepest of recent history) with other drafts, the difference in points per game per 1st round drafted skater outside of the top 5 is something like 0.49 from 2015 to 0.47 on average from other years.
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7 mars 2023 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Devin Shore has one goal this year I dunno if I'd count him as a player (i still love him tho)


shoresy!!!
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7 mars 2023 à 18 h 3
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Quoting: DangleCat
Moving down 11 spots to pick up 2 more top 100 picks doesn't seem like terrible value. Obviously if a guy they love is there they don't do this, but it isn't bad in terms of trading back imo.


Quoting: Brian_Lee_Harvey_Oswald
they have zero prospects so that is good incentive


Moving down 11 spots in a deep 1st round to out of that awesome talent range is bad.

They have plenty of prospects, not a ton of high end ones. That what happens when you are good for 15-17 years unlike Buffalo
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7 mars 2023 à 19 h 12
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Quoting: SJS2212
"Deep Draft" is a commonly misunderstood deal amongst fans. Deep means that there might be 10-12 guys that would go top 5 in most drafts rather than pick #25 is wildly more valuable in this draft than another draft.

I'd take this package and run if I were Grier. Difference between 25 and 36 when it comes to getting top end talent is basically meaningless. This way, you get 3 kicks at the can of finding a good player in that range rather than 1. Comparing the 2015 Draft (deepest of recent history) with other drafts, the difference in points per game per 1st round drafted skater outside of the top 5 is something like 0.49 from 2015 to 0.47 on average from other years.


Yeah, and it's really situational. Grier traded the 2022 11th OA for a group of lower picks, so if he still thinks SJ's pool is too small and there is nobody around ~25-30OA he wants then he might be willing to make a move like this again. It seems like SJ had Bystedt, Lund, and Havelid pinned.
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7 mars 2023 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: SJS2212
"Deep Draft" is a commonly misunderstood deal amongst fans. Deep means that there might be 10-12 guys that would go top 5 in most drafts rather than pick #25 is wildly more valuable in this draft than another draft.

I'd take this package and run if I were Grier. Difference between 25 and 36 when it comes to getting top end talent is basically meaningless. This way, you get 3 kicks at the can of finding a good player in that range rather than 1. Comparing the 2015 Draft (deepest of recent history) with other drafts, the difference in points per game per 1st round drafted skater outside of the top 5 is something like 0.49 from 2015 to 0.47 on average from other years.


Clearly you don't understand what a deep draft is yourself.
7 mars 2023 à 19 h 38
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Quoting: BluesfanBrian
The Blues have accepted your trade offer.


The dude who made this isn’t even a Sabres fan
They aren’t gonna overpay like this
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7 mars 2023 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: SJS2212
"Deep Draft" is a commonly misunderstood deal amongst fans. Deep means that there might be 10-12 guys that would go top 5 in most drafts rather than pick #25 is wildly more valuable in this draft than another draft.

I'd take this package and run if I were Grier. Difference between 25 and 36 when it comes to getting top end talent is basically meaningless. This way, you get 3 kicks at the can of finding a good player in that range rather than 1. Comparing the 2015 Draft (deepest of recent history) with other drafts, the difference in points per game per 1st round drafted skater outside of the top 5 is something like 0.49 from 2015 to 0.47 on average from other years.

this draft is 40 deep with players that would be taken in the top 20 on an average draft! and the higher up the better. counter argument in deep drafts like these players who lack size speed or refinement wind up falling into the late 2nd early 3rd only to wind up being plus player down the road.
Like I said the value is there but the reason shark pass is we have a deep prospect pool of decent players and what we really need is players with higher ceilings to round out our prospect pool and the higher we can draft the better our chances of landing those type players.
If Grier does this I would not be angry, but at 26 a guy like Kohen zeimmer, Maxim Strbak and Michael Hrabal will likely be available and all 3 would add value in a position of need.
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7 mars 2023 à 23 h 7
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Quoting: Brian_Lee_Harvey_Oswald
Make me bitc h


There’s no reason for that
Grow up dude
7 mars 2023 à 23 h 50
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Preds decline
 
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