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San Jose Are You Ok With This Part 1

Créé par: DevilsFanZack13
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2023
Publié: 23 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Would this trade for SJ? Let me know what you guys think. There will be a Part 2.
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NJD
  1. Meier, Timo
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Comes with a 8 year 8.5mil contract extension
SJS
  1. Clarke, Graeme
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Sharangovich, Yegor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
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850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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23 févr. 2023 à 20 h 51
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Time to move in from this man, they’re holding out for Mercer. We don’t need to mess up what we’ve built. Let another team do this trade. We’ll be better off in the long run.
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23 févr. 2023 à 21 h 37
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No not close
23 févr. 2023 à 21 h 47
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Quoting: glarson17
No not close


Do us a favor and send him somewhere else. You can want Mercer all you want, but we’d be the dumbest organization in the NHL to give him up. No thanks!
23 févr. 2023 à 21 h 50
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Do us a favor and send him somewhere else. You can want Mercer all you want, but we’d be the dumbest organization in the NHL to give him up. No thanks!


I wouldn't do this trade listed. Can't see a trade being made without a very good prospect coming back.

That being said, it's a good thing nobody on this site actually makes trades, because it would somehow lead to the end of civilization with how much of a disaster these forums are already.
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23 févr. 2023 à 21 h 56
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Do us a favor and send him somewhere else. You can want Mercer all you want, but we’d be the dumbest organization in the NHL to give him up. No thanks!


Zero times on this site have I said Mercer to San Jose in a trade. Never even thought of it because he’s already on their roster and thriving.
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23 févr. 2023 à 21 h 57
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Quoting: Klara
I wouldn't do this trade listed. Can't see a trade being made without a very good prospect coming back.

That being said, it's a good thing nobody on this site actually makes trades, because it would somehow lead to the end of civilization with how much of a disaster these forums are already.


And here we were making a fair trade over a week ago. Good times, good times!
23 févr. 2023 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: glarson17
Zero times on this site have I said Mercer to San Jose in a trade. Never even thought of it because he’s already on their roster and thriving.


Let me rephrase, not the specific YOU, as in glarson17. I mean the YOU as in the SJ organization. I group you all together.
23 févr. 2023 à 22 h 4
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Quoting: glarson17
Zero times on this site have I said Mercer to San Jose in a trade. Never even thought of it because he’s already on their roster and thriving.


the lowest I see is Holtz + 2023 2nd (and that is a desperate trade)
The highest I see is Holtz + 2023 1st + Muk + Other pick/prospect + cap dump stuff

If the sharks walk away with anything less than a high end prospect (Holtz in the case of NJD), it would only be a massive loss.
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23 févr. 2023 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: RV23
Let me rephrase, not the specific YOU, as in glarson17. I mean the YOU as in the SJ organization. I group you all together.


Gotcha, some have asked for Mercer from the start and I was surprised for that to actually be the ask.
23 févr. 2023 à 22 h 44
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Quoting: Klara
the lowest I see is Holtz + 2023 2nd (and that is a desperate trade)
The highest I see is Holtz + 2023 1st + Muk + Other pick/prospect + cap dump stuff

If the sharks walk away with anything less than a high end prospect (Holtz in the case of NJD), it would only be a massive loss.


Honestly Holtz and a 2nd is a massive loss. How do you only walk away with a late 2nd and a prospect who hasn’t hardly played this year for a 26 yo 40 goal scorer to be this year
23 févr. 2023 à 22 h 47
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Honestly Holtz and a 2nd is a massive loss. How do you only walk away with a late 2nd and a prospect who hasn’t hardly played this year for a 26 yo 40 goal scorer to be this year


Holtz is a VERY good prospect, tons of skill, just typical issues trying to break in on a good team, not worried in the slightest about that. I would take Holtz alone over a late 1st & 2nd.
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23 févr. 2023 à 22 h 51
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Quoting: Klara
Holtz is a VERY good prospect, tons of skill, just typical issues trying to break in on a good team, not worried in the slightest about that. I would take Holtz alone over a late 1st & 2nd.


Thank you for being able to see the quality of Holtz as an asset. I swear he's being massively underrated almost every where I see
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23 févr. 2023 à 22 h 59
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Thank you for being able to see the quality of Holtz as an asset. I swear he's being massively underrated almost every where I see


I've been posting Meier for Holtz + 1st for probably two years now, I don't plan on changing anytime soon :P
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23 févr. 2023 à 23 h 3
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I've been posting Meier for Holtz + 1st for probably two years now, I don't plan on changing anytime soon :P


That'd be a fair offer without a bidding war or at the draft but as a devils fan I expect it to take a 3rd piece such as Mukh/Zetterlund and depending on how high carolina goes some sweetener for making the money work
23 févr. 2023 à 23 h 29
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Holtz is a VERY good prospect, tons of skill, just typical issues trying to break in on a good team, not worried in the slightest about that. I would take Holtz alone over a late 1st & 2nd.


Quoting: dgibb10
Thank you for being able to see the quality of Holtz as an asset. I swear he's being massively underrated almost every where I see


No doubt he can shoot the puck like no other but has skating issues and is one dimensional. Not playing much all year doesn’t help his development
23 févr. 2023 à 23 h 44
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Quoting: RV23
Time to move in from this man, they’re holding out for Mercer. We don’t need to mess up what we’ve built. Let another team do this trade. We’ll be better off in the long run.


The ask was Mercer + an A prospect + 1st.
(Holtz and Nemec aren’t A prospects to Sharks).

I think Meier to NJD is officially DOA.
23 févr. 2023 à 23 h 47
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The ask was Mercer + an A prospect + 1st.
(Holtz and Nemec aren’t A prospects to Sharks).

I think Meier to NJD is officially DOA.


You REALLY Believe the sharks don't consider Holtz or Nemec an A prospect...
23 févr. 2023 à 23 h 51
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You REALLY Believe the sharks don't consider Holtz or Nemec an A prospect...


It’s been reported multiple times in multiple places.
23 févr. 2023 à 23 h 57
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It’s been reported multiple times in multiple places.


Funny, because the only article I can recall was the Sheng Peng one where he says the sharks are asking for an A prospect or two B prospects. And then speculates what rating those prospects could be.

But suddenly that means the sharks organization wants Holtz, Nemec, and a 1st?
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24 févr. 2023 à 1 h 55
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Quoting: glarson17
Zero times on this site have I said Mercer to San Jose in a trade. Never even thought of it because he’s already on their roster and thriving.


I'm pretty shocked they're sticking with a Mercer ask as well.
Signals to me Grier doesn't want to trade Meier (he knows his ask is going to be shot down)
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24 févr. 2023 à 2 h 16
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I'm pretty shocked they're sticking with a Mercer ask as well.
Signals to me Grier doesn't want to trade Meier (he knows his ask is going to be shot down)


Shows where he thinks this team is too, that they need a ton of help. Would have to think Karlsson is gone by next start of next season.
 
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