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1 More Timo Trade Until Something Happens

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Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 18 févr. 2023
Publié: 18 févr. 2023
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Everything I've read it sounds like it'll be about 3 pieces for Meier. A roster player ( Sharangovich ), a top prospect ( Holtz ) and a 1st round pick. Who says no to this trade? Is this good value for both sides? Let me know what you guys think.
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18 févr. 2023 à 17 h 38
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18 févr. 2023 à 17 h 40
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sharks fans going to want too much and thats fair hes a hell of a player but i have no idea what hes going to go for. this is a fair package may have to add one more pick i have no idea. biggest mistake y'all made was not signing bratt long term though
18 févr. 2023 à 17 h 43
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I think it's a fair deal, but I think things are set to heat up and maybe it will require Mercer over Sharangovich,. I don't think Fitzgerald goes for that. Apparently Carolina might be willing to part with Jarvis and Suzuki, so should make for an interesting trade deadline. If Meier does get traded this deadline, I think he may go for more than the ask.
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18 févr. 2023 à 17 h 56
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Any Sharks fan saying this is too much is out of their mind
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18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 0
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As the season has gone on I’ve not been impressed with Holtz, though he hasn’t had much opportunity. There are issues there with skating and being one dimensional. Sharangovich isn’t much other than a 3rd line winger, sharks already have that guy x3 at least on the team already.
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18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 33
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Any Sharks fan saying this is too much is out of their mind


Only one shark fan is more like it lmao.

1st/Holtz/Casey or Mukh and we can move on from this
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18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 34
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Honestly at this point I would be out on the devils. What they have to offer just isnt interesting
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18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 36
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Only one shark fan is more like it lmao.

1st/Holtz/Casey or Mukh and we can move on from this


If that’s what they want, that’s fine by me.
18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 46
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And just watching Mercer today, don’t even think of asking for him. Kids turning into a great 2 way forward for us.
18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 47
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Honestly at this point I would be out on the devils. What they have to offer just isnt interesting


If you think our prospects are SOOOO terrible than you keep him, see how that works out for you in the off-season. We’ll take him off your hands for nothing when you decline that QO offer 😉

Nobody is beating a 1st/Holtz/Casey offer and you know it lol
18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 48
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If you think our prospects are SOOOO terrible than you keep him, see how that works out for you in the off-season. We’ll take him off your hands for nothing when you decline that QO offer 😉


No we just deal to another of the entire league that should want him. I just think other GMS are willing to make those tough moves that it doesnt seem like NJ is.
18 févr. 2023 à 18 h 53
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No we just deal to another of the entire league that should want him. I just think other GMS are willing to make those tough moves that it doesnt seem like NJ is.


Ohhh that’s it, you’re back of the opinion Carolina is giving you Jarvis or Buffalo will give you Savoie! Let me know how that works out for you
18 févr. 2023 à 19 h 3
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Ohhh that’s it, you’re back of the opinion Carolina is giving you Jarvis or Buffalo will give you Savoie! Let me know how that works out for you


Im certainly of the hope they will. Even past that, I think they have prospects that fit our needs a lot better than Mukh or Bahl or whatever
18 févr. 2023 à 19 h 12
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Im certainly of the hope they will. Even past that, I think they have prospects that fit our needs a lot better than Mukh or Bahl or whatever


Buddy even canes fans will tell you a Holtz/Casey package is better than what they’re willing/can give up. I understand your perspective, you feel a Hughes/Nemec/Mercer should be going your way but it’s simply not happening. Either you make the trade with us or you don’t do it out of spite.
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Im certainly of the hope they will. Even past that, I think they have prospects that fit our needs a lot better than Mukh or Bahl or whatever


Yup 100%.
18 févr. 2023 à 19 h 36
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If that’s what they want, that’s fine by me.


It isn't - this is what Devils fans want to unload. Nothing that is truly valued and a late first, hard pass.
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If you think our prospects are SOOOO terrible than you keep him, see how that works out for you in the off-season. We’ll take him off your hands for nothing when you decline that QO offer 😉

Nobody is beating a 1st/Holtz/Casey offer and you know it lol


It’s not that their prospects are terrible, it’s that all the good ones are “untouchable” even though it’s for a top line player with team control. That’s the frustrating part. If you’re moving Bratt, who I see as good but just under Timo, would you not be expecting the other teams best prospects to be on the table?
18 févr. 2023 à 19 h 43
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It's a pass. His SHL numbers were less than Bystedt and his international play was way less than Bystedt.

It'll take Nemec or Hughes to get it done from NJ.

NJ also requires an extension to be done and Carolina doesn't require that as per Lebrun. Plus Canes have pieces that suit our needs better even outside of Jarvis.

Canes>Devils sorry to say.
18 févr. 2023 à 20 h 8
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It’s not that their prospects are terrible, it’s that all the good ones are “untouchable” even though it’s for a top line player with team control. That’s the frustrating part. If you’re moving Bratt, who I see as good but just under Timo, would you not be expecting the other teams best prospects to be on the table?


No no the frustrating part is you select few who under value our guys and just call the canes prospects better! When it’s completely unwarranted. Holtz is still ranked as a top 25 prospect in ALL rankings. Casey is safely ranked in the top 60 prospects but yet this is “unattractive”. But then in the same breath say canes prospects are better but offer no supporting facts towards that whatsoever. Nikishin and Morrow are the only canes prospects in the same ranking category as those two, and guess what you won’t get them both! We offer you a better package and you scoff at it; just because you can’t get players we selected at 4th and 2nd overall. You just live in an unreal fantasy world thinking you get these guys.
18 févr. 2023 à 20 h 22
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No no the frustrating part is you select few who under value our guys and just call the canes prospects better! When it’s completely unwarranted. Holtz is still ranked as a top 25 prospect in ALL rankings. Casey is safely ranked in the top 60 prospects but yet this is “unattractive”. But then in the same breath say canes prospects are better but offer no supporting facts towards that whatsoever. Nikishin and Morrow are the only canes prospects in the same ranking category as those two, and guess what you won’t get them both! We offer you a better package and you scoff at it; just because you can’t get players we selected at 4th and 2nd overall. You just live in an unreal fantasy world thinking you get these guys.


And you all think your 5th round draft picks are Jesus and an A prospect. Casey is good, B prospect. Muk is good, B prospect. Holtz hasn’t progressed at all this season, probably still A if not a tweener because of that. Miles wood: a$$. Sharangovich, sharks have 3 of him already. Kevin Bahl, depth defenseman. Boqvist, not even nhl level.

You ignored my question though, if you traded Bratt right now would you take mid level prospects, borderline nhlers to 3rd line players and a pick around 30?
18 févr. 2023 à 20 h 25
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And you all think your 5th round draft picks are Jesus and an A prospect. Casey is good, B prospect. Muk is good, B prospect. Holtz hasn’t progressed at all this season, probably still A if not a tweener because of that. Miles wood: a$$. Sharangovich, sharks have 3 of him already. Kevin Bahl, depth defenseman. Boqvist, not even nhl level.

You ignored my question though, if you traded Bratt right now would you take mid level prospects, borderline nhlers to 3rd line players and a pick around 30?


Look at who you’re talking to?! I’ve been realistic about this situation the entire time! I’ve given more than fair rankings to our prospects and you know that. I’m not answering your question because top 50 prospects in the entire NHL are not “mid”. If that’s the case the canes prospects you all are clamoring for are “mid”.
18 févr. 2023 à 20 h 28
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Look at who you’re talking to?! I’ve been realistic about this situation the entire time! I’ve given more than fair rankings to our prospects and you know that. I’m not answering your question because top 50 prospects in the entire NHL are not “mid”. If that’s the case the canes prospects you all are clamoring for are “mid”.


Do you wouldn’t? That’s what I’m getting. I know you have but how one team may view their players isn’t how another will. Because if this was the ask, the trade would have happened already and Holtz wouldn’t have been in the press box for 40 games
18 févr. 2023 à 20 h 36
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Do you wouldn’t? That’s what I’m getting. I know you have but how one team may view their players isn’t how another will. Because if this was the ask, the trade would have happened already and Holtz wouldn’t have been in the press box for 40 games



If shoe was on the other foot and we had to trade bratt for a 1st/Holtz/Casey it’s a YES! But no we we wanna sit here stomping our feet in the ground like children because we won’t give you Hughes/Nemec/Mercer. If you don’t want the deal, fine by me. But stop with this BS that the canes can/will beat the package I’ve suggested. They’ve told you absolutely no on Nikishin and Jarvis is also believed to be untouchable. So explain to me what at that point is so much more attractive that they are offering?!?
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18 févr. 2023 à 20 h 59
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If shoe was on the other foot and we had to trade bratt for a 1st/Holtz/Casey it’s a YES! But no we we wanna sit here stomping our feet in the ground like children because we won’t give you Hughes/Nemec/Mercer. If you don’t want the deal, fine by me. But stop with this BS that the canes can/will beat the package I’ve suggested. They’ve told you absolutely no on Nikishin and Jarvis is also believed to be untouchable. So explain to me what at that point is so much more attractive that they are offering?!?


Morrow, who fits the sharks needs, 1st in a similar spot in the draft, one of Koivunen, Rees, Blake, Grudinin. That at least ties the offer imo.

I think 1st, Holtz and Casey is a fine return, I don’t think San Jose should settle for that if there’s so many teams interested
18 févr. 2023 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: glarson17
Morrow, who fits the sharks needs, 1st in a similar spot in the draft, one of. That at least ties the offer imo.

I think 1st, Holtz and Casey is a fine return, I don’t think San Jose should settle for that if there’s so many teams interested


WOW that’s crazy man! That really is. Even the Canes fans will be humble enough to tell you that’s a HUGE stretch to say that matches. But you go ahead with that if that’s what you want. You’ll be sorely regretting it down the road. You “fans” can trash Holtz as much as you want but those are insulting comparisons to say Koivunen, Rees, Blake, or Grudinin matches Holtz value. Not one of them is even ranked inside the top 50. Smh.
 
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