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What Do We Think Of Holtz

Créé par: DevilsFanZack13
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2023
Publié: 11 févr. 2023
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What do we think Holtz could be? Do we think that he could be a better player than Timo Meier? If we want Meier it's most likely going to start with Holtz and our 2023 1st round pick. Depending on what Meier wants contract wise, I'd be content if we didn't go after Meier and maybe went after someone like Boeser who would definitely be cheaper. Let me know what you guys think NJ will do with Holtz. Whether we get Meier. Whether we go after Boeser? Or maybe do something out of left field.
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  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
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11 févr. 2023 à 10 h 20
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He’s got the chance to be really good but he won’t do it in jersey he’s buried behind a lot of guys
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11 févr. 2023 à 10 h 22
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The odds are very high that he will not be as good a player as Meier. Tage having the most insane development story of any professional athlete has really fooled people about just how much has to go right for even top prospects to make the league at all, let alone become legitimate first line talents
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11 févr. 2023 à 10 h 32
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The odds are very high that he will not be as good a player as Meier. Tage having the most insane development story of any professional athlete has really fooled people about just how much has to go right for even top prospects to make the league at all, let alone become legitimate first line talents


This site definitely overvalues prospects a lot
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11 févr. 2023 à 10 h 35
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Hes no Meier, but he could score some goals for sure if things work.

Not sure how much stock to put in, but the devils dont seem to like him much this year
11 févr. 2023 à 11 h 27
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He still has top 6 dual threat potential. Maybe a 60 point guy if things fall the right way. I would only trade him for Meier if that were the only way a deal got done.
11 févr. 2023 à 11 h 35
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Keep in mind --

1. He just turned 21. Holtz is out producing Meier at same age.
2. He has 2+ years on ELC remaining. NJD are in no rush.
3. He is being developed with coaching, strength training, film time, not with reps. Brunette especially spends a lot of time with him.
4. Goal-scorers rarely develop slowly and progressively. We usually see big step-changes. So his path to 30 goals may not look like 5->15->20->30. It is more likely to look like 5->5->25->30.
5. There were a lot of Devils fans that gave up on Hughes and Hischier too. I remember one going as far as saying he would have traded both for Laine.

Be patient.

As for the trade...it still will all depend on the contract. Having Bratt to sign too makes it especially complicated. And now that San Jose says they aren't allowing NJD to speak with agent, it probably removes Meier from our list. We should move on to other guys.
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11 févr. 2023 à 12 h 3
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He's soft and slow/can't skate. In what world does he become better than Meier?
11 févr. 2023 à 12 h 10
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This site definitely overvalues prospects a lot


Somehow not that much more than NHL GMs do ...
11 févr. 2023 à 12 h 39
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He's soft and slow/can't skate. In what world does he become better than Meier?


Sharks fans are just making stuff up now. “Soft and slow can’t skate”….but they must have him.
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11 févr. 2023 à 12 h 46
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Also…is Meier really worth it. Would he be a point-per-game player in Metro?

This year…..
vs pacific 1.50 ppg
vs atlantic 0.85 ppg
vs central 0.75 ppg
vs metro 0.55 ppg
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11 févr. 2023 à 13 h 4
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He’s got the chance to be really good but he won’t do it in jersey he’s buried behind a lot of guys


Not really, on the right side theres Bratt, and then a hole on the top 6 that they haven't really been able to fill.

If next year you go
Palat Hischier Bratt
Yegor Hughes Holtz
Tatar Mercer Zetterlund
______ Haula/Mcleod Bastian thatll work fine
11 févr. 2023 à 14 h 26
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I mean Holtz has played 20 games this year…that doesn’t bode well for developing a players full game when his only game is his shot
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