Sure. Not 3 1sts and a 2nd. Just no.

Putting 1st round value on Casey Mittelstadt is a hell of a stretch.

that's a real apples and oranges kinda comp. Burns is 37 years old and still had 3x$8M left on a deal with an extremely strong NTC (he submits a list of 3 teams he's ok with a trade to every year and that's it) who was showing signs of decline (scoring at a 50 pts/82 GP pace from 2019-20 through last season after scoring at a 75 point pace the 4 seasons before). Any team that was going to give up premium assets for a player that old, with that big of a cap hit, would have been raked over the coals - if Burns had kept regressing down to a 40-45 point player, I'm sure Carolina would regret taking him on at even $5.3M through his age-39 season.

Meier's 26 years old, has been a hair under a PPG player going back to the beginning of last season (63-61-124 in 128 GP) and, even with an 8 year extension, will end that contract younger than Burns was at the time of his trade. Even if you don't want to pay it, there's a price point for players with that kind of age and production, and it's going to start with a 1st round pick and another strong asset.

Comparing 37 year old Burns who was making $8m for 3 more years and Meier who is 26/27 in his prime isn’t correct - not comparable.

You are correct Burns is a top pairing defenseman on the Canes, but what does that have to do with a trade with Meier?

Not specifically comparing the 2 players. But look at the trade market. That's what I am comparing.

Look at Patches. Traded for free.

Teams don't have cap space.

Smart GMs are not giving up a ton of assets.

BUF has no reason to do this trade. ZERO.

Teams only need to make $3m-$6m in ‘cap space’ to make Meier work. There are quite a few teams who could make this work pretty easily. Comparing cap saving trade in the offseason to TDL deals isn’t going to land with good comparables.

Considering BUF - you say they have no reason to do this trade. Guess that’s one team out of the way for the services of a good play driving winger in the prime of his career.

Burns is a top-pairing Dman on the 2nd best team in the league.

What people seem to always forget is that San Jose doesn’t have to move Meier. Trades like these should be expected or San Jose should just keep him. As a sharks fan I don’t mind these trades at all

Teams can make it work, but teams won't be giving up the equivalent of 3 1sts and a 2nd. I mean that is just crazy talk.

And teams need $10mm in cap space next year to fit him on top of it.

Pacioretty was a 1st line LW almost a PPG is entire time in Vegas and was a cap dump when traded ...

You are not listening, I said whoever trade for Meier gets him with an extension 8.5Mish for 8 years
The teams above HAVE the cap space to do it (NJ BUF CAR)
Casey Mittelstadt isn't worth more than a 3rd and I doubt he is worth a 3rd
Ok change PHI 2nd for VGK 2nd & call it a day
You can keep Casey and send Jost who has ZERO value since you claimed him via waivers
So the price for Meier would be two first round picks and a 2nd, which is fair for a top line winger in his prime and getting him for 8 years

Why would Meier sign for $8.5mm when he is due $10mm? I mean, maybe he takes less than his contract says. Would you?

Jost has value. We're a top 5 team in the league since acquiring him and Mitts plays on his line and is 4th in points on a top scoring team in the teague.

We just have zero need to do this trade. Zero.

He's 11th in his draft class in points.

And did Pacioretty get 3 1st and a 2nd? Or? Less?

Maybe from the Sabres imo- that’s a big ask
I do think we’re interested in him, but i also don’t know that we’d wanna be involved in a bidding war either

Were Vegas in cap trouble ? Yes
Is Pacioretty 26 yo & didn't get the memo
Does Pacioretty 26 yo and could be sign long terms ?
You have zero hockey knowledge, why are you still here
No one is on your side, you can just say BUF decline, too much
But you are comparing apples with oranges

Casey or Jost
Drop PHI early 2nd for Vegas late 2nd
Better ?

Casey or Jost
Drop PHI early 2nd for Vegas late 2nd
Better ?

He is not getting 10M long terms

Is SJ in cap trouble? Yes.

I reject your assertations on my hockey knowledge. Pretty mean if you ask me.

I've provided plenty of trade comparables.

And FYI. I'm old enough to remember sweeping MTL 4-0 in 1998. (and the losses in the 80's)

Hopefully we're both good enough to be in the playoffs together again.

No SJ aren't in cap trouble and can just qualify him
Vegas had to trade Pacio before the season start
The trades you are comparing doesn't make sense
The only one that make sense is the LAK one
Only good comparable, and Faber is a really good RHD prospect

Is Meier willing to sign a long-term deal with San Jose? There's a real possibility that he isn't. Therefore they are motivated to trade him, as there only option then would be to qualify him ($10M x 1) and sell him as a pending UFA next deadline. He'll be worth less as a pending UFA.

So they're going to get the best return for him right now and they know it. It's not their only option, but it's the best one. So you can't pretend they don't have any motivation to make a deal.

Casey Mittelstadt isn't worth more than a 3rd and I doubt he is worth a 3rd