This obsession with Laffy seems nonsensical imo. I think everyone can acknowledge he shouldn’t have been selected over guys like Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson, Quinn, Perfetti, Lundell, Jarvis, Guhle, and Mercer. And that’s only to name a few. I don’t c any team moving a major asset for him in season, and to be honest idk why the **** the rangers would sell for Pennies on the dollar.

Disagree with the 1st part but agree with the rest. Lafreniere was the consensus 1st pick, most of not all those forwards would just do as bad or worse in NY. Worth noting that Raymond for example isn't even doing much better than Lafreniere this year.

Raymond is in a slump, but Laffy never took off. You could say the same for Jarvis tbh. And yeah Laffy was the consensus pick, but you shouldn’t go first overall if ur not an elite skater.

WAY too much for Lafrenière who looks like he might never be more than a middle 6 guy. He could still be what we all thought he was, but that potential is not worth paying for, with where Detroit is in the rebuild. I think a team with a strong leadership core and a little less media scrutiny could be a really good change of scenery for Laffy. I think a team like Minnesota would be a fantastic fit for him.

Maybe but Lafreniere was the best all around offensive player, I don't think that he will be the best of that class but he was the most NHL ready imo.

Stutzle is probably at the top right now, then Raymond but I wouldn't call Raymond an elite skater. I remember a Detroit fan wanted to trade him because he falls a lot which is likely something he will overcome but I don't think anyone takes Raymond 1st OV on draft day, maybe whoever was considered the best C would have been taken.

It comes down to the Rangers inability to develop offensive players or maybe the pressure of the big market.

I don’t agree on that. Chytil figured it out under Gallant. Kakko has diabetes which isn’t his fault, and Laffy can’t skate. Kravtsov and Anderson were reaches. You have to take guys you can develop before you blame the coaches.

Say all you want now, and you are lol, but 32/32 GMs had Laf @1 & Kakko @2. Mostly because of early growth & dominance vs kids, meaning a higher ceiling. This does not guarantee stardom, every year it's a crapshoot, simply look at previous drafts lol. The irony is the NYR curse is alive & well. Gifting us; no CMcD/AM type, non elite Ws. Either way, ridiculous to say they should not have been picked lol

Chytil's role as the 3C is going to be different than Lafreniere who is expected to play in the top 6. It's not like Chytil is doing way better in terms of production, they have the same amount of points but Lafreniere played 7 games more.

There is a point where it's obvious that the Rangers struggle to develop certain types of offensive players. It's very easy to just dismiss Kravstov, Andersson, and perhaps in time Lafreniere but who is the last top 6 F that they drafted and developed who did well in terms of production? I personally can't think of anyone.

I'm not blaming Gallant in particular since it's just his 1st year, and this seems to be a persistent problem in New York for years.

A little premature to conclude "LaF never took off". Maybe he will and maybe he wont become an elite player- but the alarming thing here for NYR fans is not LaF...but NYR history of botching high draft picks and inability to properly develop young talent. With proper deployment- consistent line mates, PP1 time (like most #1OA's get) and coaching which puts him in a position to succeed by playing him to his strengths (rather than trying to get him to play a game not suitable to him)- he should be just fine. And LaF was the consensus pick at #1OA...and not that his skating is bad- but not the first 1OA whose skating could use a little work. Deployed properly, his skating wouldn't be an issue in his development.

Now this is the kind of deal that gets it done. A pretty good pick and a guy with some term who can help the rangers right now. I'd do this deal and get Laf in here.

Kakko's health concerns were well known when drafted- and he was still the consensus top 2 pick at the time...his condition is managed- and as a result is no factor in his development-which is doing just fine. LaF for sure could work on his skating- but a bigger factor holding him up now is his deployment...which is a direct result of coaching. While Krav and Anderson were mild reaches (most had them going in the teens) the bigger issue was how both were handled post draft. Ironically, NYR have done decently with mid and later round picks...but their record with higher picks is dismal. This is an indictment of how they pick players AND how the coaches use these guys. So I have to disagree here...the coaches have a lot to do with it!

😂😂😂 That would be me, sir. He is not a very good skater at all but, I was trading him for Quinn Hughes so, I wasn’t really giving up on him per se’; more so, upgrading.

Hard me to imagine that his condition isn’t a factor tbh. Even if it’s a minor one.

😂, I just remember the wording being a bit harsh though, and me suggesting maybe he needs an equipment change and others suggesting that he just needs to find his legs like Brady Tkachuk.

I don't know how much or little it is a factor...but the fact that it was still well known prior to draft- yet he was still a consensus pick, and literally a real easy #2 selection- leads me to believe that with proper medication and/or lifestyle measures, the effect is minimal. A much greater effect on him is POOR COACHING...like scratching him versus TBL last year. That was totally uncalled for- and if for meritocracy issues, good coaching would apply similar standards of "discipline" to guys like Trouba and Panarin. Now- I wouldn't expect either to be benched in a playoff game to prove a point...but in season both of these guys make blunder after blunder (and usually the same mistake: blown D coverage or an ill advised neutral zone pass) yet neither EVER pay a price with this coach! Maybe if either did pay a price, they would stop making the SAME mistake over and over.

Boy be lookin like Bambi out there sometimes 😂

Yeah, I thought it was something about looking like a dear 😂.

This will not happen. We will trade a healthy zadina for laff and throw in hagg.