I sympathize with your desire to have Frankie V back, but we just signed him long-term for a reason and we can't send him back after less than half a season, especially when he's been exactly what we expected and exactly what we hoped for.

Tis correct — would also take a lot more if we were to send him back

But you guys aren't really playing up to what you guys might have wanted to...And Frankie V isnt really young, he's in his prime rn...But he has done reall well given the Ducks situation tho...

The fact is if you trade a UFA you just signed a few months before to a longer term deal, you won’t have other UFAs wanting to sign with you because of it. It’s just not how you do business

There's a lot of season left, and not saying we're going to go on some big run, but we expected to finish bottom 10 in the league again even at the start of the year. Vatrano knew what he was signing onto, and I suspect one of the reasons he is here is to teach the kids some tenacity. First 15 games of the season, the only two guys I saw playing the full 60 was Vatrano and Gibson.

If FV was a rental it would work. No chance WSH does this. I think 1st + Blais for only Kuz is more realistic

Is the Charlie Lindgren trade just for fun? Cuz he is not very good.

@JaredOfLondon

Here’s an example

Horvat 50% retained, Kuzmenko, Stillman and NY 4th round pick

for
Chytil, Kaapo, Korczak, Garand, NY 2023 1st round pick 2024 NY 1st round pick & 2024 2nd round pick.

That would leave cap space and Dallas 1st round to go after Patty Kane.

i think you need a nap because you seem to be having half this argument in your head

No argument at all. Provided you an example of how I respond to someone who actually tries to make realistic deals. Might do you some good to try and learn rather than the combative troll approach

or, just maybe, you are going out of your way to invent an argument that had nothing to do with my points so you can act like you 'won'. Bro, just admit that the rangers would take that deal 100 times out of 100 and would easily find a way to afford it. It's very simple, and your weird crusade about 'silly leafs fans' making the proposal is nonsensical at best

Can't afford Kuz or Vatrano next year. Pass

You might as well have only offered the first round pick, since none of the other pieces move the needle at all

Any team would take Nylander for next to nothing, I can’t believe you are this insecure that you need this in writing. My whole “crusade” as you call it, was stating that there’s no thought on the leafs post and that’s par for the course with your fan base. A lot of ridiculous stuff. Nylander wouldn’t financially fit otherwise you could say the same for the leafs making it work. You realize how sad it is that you’re begging me to say nylander is better than Kakko and a 2nd?! Everyone already knows that. On the surface it’s obviously a landslide. No dispute and there never was. It’s why nylander will make 10m and Kakko makes 2M. You really need someone else to put it in writing to feel good about yourself and the leafs?? Again, this is more clown content from a leaf fan. You should just make an acgm asking who would want Kakko and 2nd or nylander. 99.9% will tell you nylander and Kakko oh will feel good about yourself 👌🏼

Lol it’s nice to know other fan bases have annoying run-ins with that guy and not just Canucks fans

Everyone has

This is so goddamned funny, you are so mad

Imagine logging onto this website to engage in meaningful discourse instead of gaslighting other users

Imagine using the term gaslighting and having no idea what it means

Mad? Not one bit. I feel for ya actually. I’m not sure how old you are or what your life has been like but wasting that much time trolling people on here because you want to believe every leaf is the best and that it has any meaning in your life is a bit sad. Disappointed in your parents for not helping you realize there’s more to life than a hockey team.

Tough to imagine

sure thing dude, you literally ignored my entire argument and invented your own and then started tagging me in other threads and are accusing me of trolling. You're hella mad, good job, good effort

Please clarify what you believe your argument is

dude, im not gonna type the same thing out for you for the 10th time. I was very very clear and if you cant suss it out through that red haze, you should take that nap i suggested earlier and try it again through fresh eyes