Drop O.O and the Avs consider it

lol. I think Sean's worth around a 2nd and tried to reflect that the best I could despite the avs not having any of them

Avs would consider a conditional 4th that could turn into a '25 2nd. Would be some steep conditions tho.
O.O still has 1st rounder value.

If a fifth round pick gets Lucic and Lucic can get Anderson plus third round pick. Rangers will just send their fifth for Anderson and Montreal can keep their third

We already have better than Dvorak for less AAV. If we're pursuing another center, the hope is that we're finding someone better than the established guys we already have. At that price it's potentially worth considering, but ultimately I think we're better off if we pass.

Habs are gonna have to pay to move Dvorak. Not only is he not worth his cap hit, he's also owed $11.475M over the next 2 years. Really don't see why the Jackets would consider trading for him.

NYR aren't interested. If Reaves don't work then Lucic won't do it either.

I think that is the first Anderson trade where people don't think he's the second coming of Jesus.
Probably not that far off though.

It would cost more than a 3rd to dump Lucic. That is essentially calling Anderson a cap dump which he isnt!
Seems the narrative here is he's either worth multiple 1sts or hes a cap dump.
Both sides need to be realistic. He has 8 goals this year in a limited role without PP production and is signed to a decent contract in his prime. That isnt close to cap dump territory especially when you have legitimate sources like Lebrun reporting that Hughes refused lucrative offers for Anderson at last TDL.
Its a tired narrative to fight over his value when the facts are out there.

i would describe that simply as Hughes' biggest blunder if he was offered any positive value for that abysmal contract and declined. On pace for 32 points at 5.5M with term, especially when that's not even really an outlier, is unacceptable and is absolutely a liability.

The athletic's model, not sure if you've seen some of those player statistic cards that people have shared on here from the athletic, has his market value at $0. Overpaid by 5.5M by that model. While he's prob more a 2-3M player, still crazy

ok deal take that contract. Doesnt have to be Rangers but some dumb GM wanting size would take 2.6M Looch. GMs would be foolish to take that Anderson deal long term.

Dom's player cards are not the only tool.

I'm sure there is a GM out there that does that and regrets not picking up Yanni Gourde every single day as IF it was the reason why a certain team hasnt been past the 1st round but alas not every GM thinks that way or they have a Shanahan that vetos that nonsense.

Anderson is on a 25 goal pace with 8 goals in 26 games. This while playing 15 mins a night with mostly defensive starts at 28 years of age. Then you account for all his 'tools' speed, forechecking and size.
All those attributes mean just as much to GMs or even more I might say than Dom's player cards.

Too many ppl here just quote JFRESH and Dom as their Gods! Yet, cant think critically outside of analytics that change value on a daily basis.

no the model isnt everything but the basic data also don't swing in his favor, 25 goals isn't special for his contract that's expected. Then you look at the fact that he's on pace for 32 points which is pretty standard for him, and it's completely unacceptable. An embarrassment to be anything less than 55-60 points with that deal. Heck even Kerfoot had 50 points last year and was still called overpaid at 3.5M

So when the "advanced stats" fit the same story, it can be contextually correct. Among one of the worst players defensively in the league as well per the stats.

What ppl get wrong about analytics is simple. Analytics are all encompassing. They are noob tools to help you understand the game without watching it,

Anderson is a luxury item. Is a Bugatti worth it! No. Certainly not but to the rich, it is as a complementary piece to their lifestyle.
Anderson has zero playmaking which makes his analytics suffer. You put him in the right environment as a luxury piece and he flourishes. He's only good for a contender.

luxury at sub 3M, liability at plus 4M. Simple.

Lol cause a 3 million dollar Bugatti is value right compared to the 8 million Bugatti. You pay what for is in demand. You are thinking about value like its cocaine in your bloodstream

he's not a bugatti, he's a slightly above average car. 3rd line winger on a proper contender, maybe the 6th F in the top 6 if playing at the top of his game.

Flames don't want Anderson for 5 more years. They can't afford his cap next year.

fully agree but rumoured that they are one of the teams who has inquired. Would be a really dumb move.

On pace for 20 even strength goals, never mind the point total. He's never been much for assists.
People are spoiled these days expecting everyone to be a point per game player or putting up 50 points on an ELC. It's raised expectations to a point where anyone that doesn't have high raw point totals is a cap dump if they have anything near a 5x5 contract.
The truth is that teams have to pay for more than just point production, because pure point production isn't enough to win. You have to pay beyond point totals to get size, speed, leadership, and other desired qualities which fill in the space around that production.
You might not want to acknowledge the reality where Ben Chiarot is worth a 1st + in trade and gets signed to a $4.5 x4 contract, but that IS the reality.

You aren't getting a Josh Anderson for less than $5M because that is the going rate for a 20 goal scorer with additional elements to his game like size and speed. If there were 30 other players like him then the price might be more palatable, but there are maybe a few, and they certainly aren't available for cheap, if at all.

That rumour was from a year ago, prior to Gudreau and Tkachuk leaving. Habs fans brought it back from the dead for some reason