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Chychrun

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Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 25 nov. 2022
Publié: 25 nov. 2022
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25 nov. 2022 à 12 h 50
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I’d rather have Sanderson than Chychrun 100 times out of 100
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25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 5
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I’d rather have Sanderson than Chychrun 100 times out of 100


That’s weird, but trading Sanderson would also be really dumb.
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Right, so we're trading our franchise player for an injury prone defenceman and a bunch of guys who's name starts with C?
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25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 11
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That’s weird, but trading Sanderson would also be really dumb.


That’s not weird. Sanderson has a Slavin/Heiskanen ceiling and is already a top 4D in his first year. You don’t move that for an often injured Top 4D man with 1 year where he was great offensively y
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 12
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That’s not weird. Sanderson has a Slavin/Heiskanen ceiling and is already a top 4D in his first year. You don’t move that for an often injured Top 4D man with 1 year where he was great offensively y


Duh. I said moving him would be dumb.

Of course anyone would want chychrun over Sanderson given a choice. That’s pretty much a no-brainer.
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 12
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Duh. I said moving him would be dumb.

Of course anyone would want chychrun over Sanderson given a choice. That’s pretty much a no-brainer.


I don’t agree. Sandy has a higher ceiling.
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25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 18
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I don’t agree. Sandy has a higher ceiling.


That’s just dumb. We’ve seen chychrun lead all d men in goals while playing a really strong two way game. If you think Sanderson might be the best d man in the NHL…i suppose. I would say it’s downright delusional though. Good player. Not that kind of ceiling.
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Duh. I said moving him would be dumb.

Of course anyone would want chychrun over Sanderson given a choice. That’s pretty much a no-brainer.


Chychrun is so Overated hes a Top 4 D Man on a Fair Contract, Good Player yes, anything extremly special no. Sanderson was a top 5 pick and has been argubly better than Chychrun already.
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25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 21
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That’s just dumb. We’ve seen chychrun lead all d men in goals while playing a really strong two way game. If you think Sanderson might be the best d man in the NHL…i suppose. I would say it’s downright delusional though. Good player. Not that kind of ceiling.


1 unsustainable inflated year in a shortened szn doesn’t make him better. He’s a top 4D . He’s not a top 25 nhl Dman . He’s also very injury prone and is a ufa in 2.5 years. No one is paying anything valuable
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 29
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1 unsustainable inflated year in a shortened szn doesn’t make him better. He’s a top 4D . He’s not a top 25 nhl Dman . He’s also very injury prone and is a ufa in 2.5 years. No one is paying anything valuable


Up until last sentence I agreed with you, but some GMs are notoriously known for paying for such assets way too much.

The ask for Chychrun is two firsts, yes? I think that could be matched, by someone desperate enough.
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25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 30
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Up until last sentence I agreed with you, but some GMs are notoriously known for paying for such assets way too much.

The ask for Chychrun is two firsts, yes? I think that could be matched, by someone desperate enough.


The ask was 3 1sts including an A prospect
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 30
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1 unsustainable inflated year in a shortened szn doesn’t make him better. He’s a top 4D . He’s not a top 25 nhl Dman . He’s also very injury prone and is a ufa in 2.5 years. No one is paying anything valuable


Phhhhhh what? No one is paying anything valuable? What planet are you on dude?
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 30
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Chychrun is so Overated hes a Top 4 D Man on a Fair Contract, Good Player yes, anything extremly special no. Sanderson was a top 5 pick and has been argubly better than Chychrun already.


No he hasn’t.
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 34
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Phhhhhh what? No one is paying anything valuable? What planet are you on dude?


He hasn’t been traded so clearly no one is giving up an A level piece
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 47
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The ask was 3 1sts including an A prospect


What the f*ck
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25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 51
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He hasn’t been traded so clearly no one is giving up an A level piece


That is some of the worst logic I’ve ever seen.
25 nov. 2022 à 13 h 55
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lol yeah destroy the team even more Dorion!

Quoting: DefenseFirst
Of course anyone would want chychrun over Sanderson given a choice. That’s pretty much a no-brainer.


Actually, I think you'd be hard pressed to find people who would take Chychrun over Sanderson who is 20 and has 1 more ELC year. Chychrun has 2 more years then UFA

Sanderson is that good that he might be the only D-man looking good in that DJ mess of a (non) system
25 nov. 2022 à 14 h 24
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What the f*ck


So it was like Pinto and 2 1sts. No team would offer that much
25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Chychrun is so Overated hes a Top 4 D Man on a Fair Contract, Good Player yes, anything extremly special no. Sanderson was a top 5 pick and has been argubly better than Chychrun already.


Yikes. Sanderson has been better based on Chychrun's 2 games this season? Fair contract? Chychrun is like 3M underpaid
25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 14
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Yikes. Sanderson has been better based on Chychrun's 2 games this season? Fair contract? Chychrun is like 3M underpaid


Chyrchrun has one season above .5 Points %. Sandy is already doing that this year. Analytically Sanderson has been better. Sanderson does benefit from a small sample no doubt, but its its not outragous to continue to expect more of the same thing as he was a TOP 5 PICK.

I could see an argument for Maybe 2 Mil underpaid like Sanheims new contract, But Chychrun isn't the Top D Man on any Contender other TOP 4 Dman like Connor Murphy John Marino, Pecse, Skjei make the same amount.

Players like Rasmus Andersson, and Shea Theodore make roughly the same amount and they are Better than Chychrun
25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 51
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Chyrchrun has one season above .5 Points %. Sandy is already doing that this year. Analytically Sanderson has been better. Sanderson does benefit from a small sample no doubt, but its its not outragous to continue to expect more of the same thing as he was a TOP 5 PICK.

I could see an argument for Maybe 2 Mil underpaid like Sanheims new contract, But Chychrun isn't the Top D Man on any Contender other TOP 4 Dman like Connor Murphy John Marino, Pecse, Skjei make the same amount.

Players like Rasmus Andersson, and Shea Theodore make roughly the same amount and they are Better than Chychrun


All you are looking at is points? That explains a lot. Chychrun actually only has 1 bad season analytically in the last 4 years. Last year and he was still quite strong defensively too. You can view them here

Rasmus Andersson and Shea Theodore are also both strictly underpaid. That's what happens when a player signs a long term contract before they break out. Sanheim, Murphy, Marino, Pesce, and Skjei aren't remotely on the same level as Chychrun. Laughable you even brought them up
 
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