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Kane Trades Bleacher Report

Créé par: Pleau2
Équipe: 2022-23 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 15 nov. 2022
Publié: 15 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
These are all trades that Bleacher Report put out. Any of them realistic?
All these trades are with 50% retention for Kane.
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Reaves, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
NYR
  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
2.
CHI
  1. Fagemo, Samuel
  2. Lemieux, Brendan
  3. Turcotte, Alex
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
LAK
    Kane
    3.
    4.
    CHI
    1. Holtz, Alexander
    2. Wood, Miles
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
    NJD
      Kane
      5.
      CHI
      1. Gurianov, Denis
      2. Hanley, Joel
      3. Khudobin, Anton
      4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
      DAL
        Kane
        Rachats de contrats
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
        Frais appliqués
        Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
        2023
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        Logo de DAL
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de TBL
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de CHI
        2024
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de TBL
        Logo de LAK
        Logo de NJD
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de VAN
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de OTT
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de CGY
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de CHI
        2025
        Logo de CHI
        Logo de DAL
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        Logo de CHI
        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        3382 500 000 $76 523 046 $237 500 $3 332 500 $5 976 954 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        750 000 $750 000 $
        AG, C, AD
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        758 333 $758 333 $
        AD
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
        C
        NMC
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        800 000 $800 000 $
        AG, C
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
        AD, C, AG
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        758 333 $758 333 $
        AG
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        975 000 $975 000 $
        AG, C
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        800 000 $800 000 $
        AD, C
        RFA - 2
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        950 000 $950 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        900 000 $900 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
        DD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        883 750 $883 750 $
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
        DG/DD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        925 000 $925 000 $
        DG
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        866 667 $866 667 $
        DD
        RFA - 1
        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
        AD
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
        DD
        NMC
        UFA - 8
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
        AD, C, AG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
        894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 550 000 $$2M)
        C
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
        750 000 $750 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
        795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
        AG, AD
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
        1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
        863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        DG
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Devils du New Jersey
        894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        AD, AG
        RFA - 3
        Logo de Devils du New Jersey
        3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Stars de Dallas
        2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Stars de Dallas
        750 000 $750 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1
        Logo de Stars de Dallas
        3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
        G
        UFA - 1

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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 44
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        Devils wouldn't give up Holtz 1 for 1 imo
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 46
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        @fulton_reed Ya, I thought that was steep. The article said either Holtz or Foote plus a first then players to match cap
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 46
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        Good lord I hope they don't do that Edmonton deal.....
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 47
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        Not much Bleacher report puts out is legit
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 47
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        Quoting: ecupirate07
        Not much Bleacher report puts out is legit


        Oh I know, especially when it comes to hockey but just wanted to see people's reactions/opinions.
        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 48
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        Interesting to see they didn't take any time or put in any effort to explain how kanes cap hit works in. Oilers would pass all day long on that
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 49
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        Not the Rangers, easy pass.
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 54
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        Is that Edmonton deal missing a 1st or something? Seems so much cheaper than pretty much every other proposal.

        As far as LA's, they aren't a Kane away from the Cup. They aren't going to give up 2 A- prospects and a 1st for half a year of Kane just for him to bolt again when the Kings can't offer him 6-8mil.
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        15 nov. 2022 à 11 h 55
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        Modifié 15 nov. 2022 à 12 h 0
        The trade values are all over the place but not really that important since it's hard to predict how much he gets traded for. I will say that I don't see NJ or LA as teams that would be adding high end rentals though, unless the price is low.

        As much as they love Broberg, I think the Oilers accept that trade if the cap works. JP's value is down the drain, so it's not really much to give up.
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        15 nov. 2022 à 12 h 30
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        Quoting: PuckLuck_77
        Is that Edmonton deal missing a 1st or something? Seems so much cheaper than pretty much every other proposal.

        As far as LA's, they aren't a Kane away from the Cup. They aren't going to give up 2 A- prospects and a 1st for half a year of Kane just for him to bolt again when the Kings can't offer him 6-8mil.


        BR didn't mention throwing in a pick for the Oilers. I guess they think JP just needs a change of scenery and he can produce at a high level and Broberg is top prospect. Not sure what BR's thought process was.

        I agree about LA. I think BR just had to throw them in there for the sake of having the LA market in the talks.
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        15 nov. 2022 à 12 h 44
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        1. Unlikely to be open bidding way for Kane as he can pick where we wants to go.

        2. Devils can’t fit $10.5m cap hit.
        15 nov. 2022 à 12 h 45
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        Quoting: NHLfan10506
        1. Unlikely to be open bidding way for Kane as he can pick where we wants to go.

        2. Devils can’t fit $10.5m cap hit.


        All these trades are with 50% retention on Kane
        15 nov. 2022 à 12 h 56
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        Devils aren't interested so help me god
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        15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 32
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        None of those teams are giving up high end pieces, For essentially 3 months of Patrick Kane and that's if they win the cup. All teams not named Chicago would easily pass.
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        15 nov. 2022 à 13 h 40
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        Yea LA isn't paying that price for a rental.
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        15 nov. 2022 à 21 h 32
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        Trading away one of the few decent RW'S you have for Kane is counter productive.

        Kane will simply be too expensive, both by Cap retention and assets given up. Plus, he's more of a distributor than a Scorer, at this stage. No point in watching him and Panarin just pass the Puck back and forth to each other with no one to shoot.

        Tarasenko is the better All Around target in a potential Blockbuster move. Assuming they go that route.
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        17 nov. 2022 à 8 h 40
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        Quoting: Shakabakes
        Trading away one of the few decent RW'S you have for Kane is counter productive.

        Kane will simply be too expensive, both by Cap retention and assets given up. Plus, he's more of a distributor than a Scorer, at this stage. No point in watching him and Panarin just pass the Puck back and forth to each other with no one to shoot.

        Tarasenko is the better All Around target in a potential Blockbuster move. Assuming they go that route.


        Although Tarasenko would be cheaper than Kane, STL would still look to acquire a 2023 !st as well as top prospects for him. Thing is- Tarasenko is about to turn 31, and a UFA at end of year....so this would be another pure rental situation. I'm not dangling 1st round picks or top prospects for ANYONE who I don't expect to be with the team at least a few years.
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        17 nov. 2022 à 10 h 13
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        Quoting: Jimbo1119
        Although Tarasenko would be cheaper than Kane, STL would still look to acquire a 2023 !st as well as top prospects for him. Thing is- Tarasenko is about to turn 31, and a UFA at end of year....so this would be another pure rental situation. I'm not dangling 1st round picks or top prospects for ANYONE who I don't expect to be with the team at least a few years.


        Very fair. Considering the chemistry that Zibenejad and Kreider already have, as well as the fact that Trocheck and Panarin seem to be adjusting to one another, then you can make the case that neither line needs a big name RW to play with them.

        Vatrano was a solid addition last Season, and they got him for a 4th. If you could find similar additions that are doubly cheap (both in Cap hit and assets required) that can play on those Top 2 lines, and therefore keep the Kid Line together, that could be even more beneficial.
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        17 nov. 2022 à 14 h 40
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        Quoting: Shakabakes
        Very fair. Considering the chemistry that Zibenejad and Kreider already have, as well as the fact that Trocheck and Panarin seem to be adjusting to one another, then you can make the case that neither line needs a big name RW to play with them.

        Vatrano was a solid addition last Season, and they got him for a 4th. If you could find similar additions that are doubly cheap (both in Cap hit and assets required) that can play on those Top 2 lines, and therefore keep the Kid Line together, that could be even more beneficial.


        The Vatrano , Motte , and Braun additions last year- those are the types of upgrades the Rangers should consider….unless getting back a player signed beyond this year (or an RFA) the 1st round picks should be off the table. But due to Cap constraints, adding someone they can keep beyond this year probably isn’t possible.
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        25 nov. 2022 à 19 h 30
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        I’ll take NJ or LA
         
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