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3 Way Trade

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 14 oct. 2022
Publié: 14 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
LA Gets:
Chychrun
LA Loses:
Roy
2023 1st (top 3 protection)
2024 3rd
Turcotte

Arizona Gets:
Zaitzev
Ottawa 2023 1st (top 10 protection)
LA 2023 1st (top 3 protection)
Thomson
Turcotte
LA 2024 3rd
Arizona Loses:
Chychrun

Ottawa Gets:
Roy
Ottawa Loses:
Zaitsev
2023 1st (top 10 protection)
Thomson

Arizona get future assests (a lot of them) and a cap dump.
LA upgrades their left D
Ottawa upgrades their right D

Thoughts on the trade?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Thomson, Lassi
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
top 10 protected
2.
OTT
  1. Roy, Matt
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
top 3 protected
3.
OTT
ARI
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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Logo de WSH
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Logo de TBL
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $78 081 548 $0 $4 025 000 $4 418 452 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG
RFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
821 667 $821 667 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1

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14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 15
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LA is not trading Matt Roy, even for Chychrun.
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 23
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA is not trading Matt Roy, even for Chychrun.


They have a ton of nice pieces on the right side. Roy is clearly very good but I would rather keep a guy like Durzi and Clarke. Will be better for them long term.

Their left side is lacking hard though.
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
LA is not trading Matt Roy, even for Chychrun.


How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans
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14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 30
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Quoting: csick
How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans


Forgot Doughty on that list also :P.

Thoughts on the trade from the Ottawa side of things?
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 33
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Can't see LA doing that. Too many quality pieces to just walk out with a decent second pair d.
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 34
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If Ottawa could have traded Zaitsev by now, you think they would have. Zaitsev has M NTC which likely excludes Arizona. Besides Arizona has no desire to take on 9m of real money of Zaitsev.
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 35
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Can't see LA doing that. Too many quality pieces to just walk out with a decent second pair d.


He would be their best dman on the left side by a decent margin.
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: palhal
If Ottawa could have traded Zaitsev by now, you think they would have. Zaitsev has M NTC which likely excludes Arizona. Besides Arizona has no desire to take on 9m of real money of Zaitsev.
Gee, a competent Monahan took a first rounder to get rid of his 6.3m contract for one year. Zaitsev add his 9m would take more, so the offer proposed to Arizona is weak.


Ottawa is in no rush to move out his cap. They don't need the cap space this year. They could benefit from it being moved next year. May as well keep Zaitsev and his cap this year as depth UNLESS he is traded in a package for a better dman (Which they do here). He will cost a lot less to ship out in the off season. As for his NTC - you may be right.

This total package is MASSIVE for Arizona. The full package going to Arizona is:

Zaitzev (replacement player + cap dump)
Ottawa 2023 1st (top 10 protection)
LA 2023 1st (top 3 protection)
Thomson
Turcotte
LA 2024 3rd

That is a BIG package. 2 very nice propescts, 2 firsts, 1 3rd and a very manageable cap dump.

Arizona does not turn this down. LA and/or Ottawa might though.
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14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 48
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Hey Brian, I did see the additional "LA assets" going to Arizona, and agree with you...it's good deal for Arizona.
You're right, Sens don't need Zaitsev's contract gone this season. Maybe next season even if it's buyout.
But I don't understand all this love for Chychun by either LA, Ottawa and other posts which include Vancouver, Oilers and Leafs.
14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 52
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They have a ton of nice pieces on the right side. Roy is clearly very good but I would rather keep a guy like Durzi and Clarke. Will be better for them long term.

Their left side is lacking hard though.


Quoting: csick
How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans


I'm not gatekeeping those guys.

Doughty, Roy, and Clarke will not be moved.

Durzi, Spence, and Grans are all available for the right trade.
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14 oct. 2022 à 14 h 58
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Hey Brian, I did see the additional "LA assets" going to Arizona, and agree with you...it's good deal for Arizona.
You're right, Sens don't need Zaitsev's contract gone this season. Maybe next season even if it's buyout.
But I don't understand all this love for Chychun by either LA, Ottawa and other posts which include Vancouver, Oilers and Leafs.


Me neither. The best I would do at this point for Chychrun would be a 1st, Turcotte, and Walker. If Arizona wants to upgrade from Walker to a defensive prospect like Spence or Durzi, then downgrade the forward prospect from Turcotte to Tyler Madden or Akil Thomas.

If that's not enough, then Arizona can keep him.
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14 oct. 2022 à 15 h 2
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I'm not gatekeeping those guys.

Doughty, Roy, and Clarke will not be moved.

Durzi, Spence, and Grans are all available for the right trade.


Beside a team can't have enough NHL calibre Dmen. If needed in time, they can easily be traded. Teams need at least 7 NHL Dmen per season, even eight. No urgency for the Kings to trade anyone.
14 oct. 2022 à 15 h 4
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Beside a team can't have enough NHL calibre Dmen. If needed in time, they can easily be traded. Teams need at least 7 NHL Dmen per season, even eight. No urgency for the Kings to trade anyone.


I agree. If anyone learned that the hard way last season, it was the Kings. At one point, all six of the defensemen that started in the season opener were out with injuries.
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14 oct. 2022 à 18 h 5
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OTT easy pass
14 oct. 2022 à 18 h 10
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Quoting: athrin
OTT easy pass


You sure? They get a very good defensive right dman in Roy and get off of Zaitsevs contract. They pay a 1st and a very good prospect in Thomson though.

Ottawa Gets:
Roy
Ottawa Loses:
Zaitsev
2023 1st (top 10 protection)
Thomson

I think Ottawa does this easy. Roy is EXACTLY what Ottawa needs.
14 oct. 2022 à 19 h 50
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I find it's a nice proposal overall
14 oct. 2022 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: csick
How can u gatekeep all of Roy, Clarke, Durzi, Spence and Grans


Roy Clarke and Doughty are the only unmoveables on RD.
 
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