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Créé par: jonh514

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 30 août 2022

Publié: 30 août 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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More Slovakian Power
Solve an Organizational Need
Give up a chance at a Generational talent

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Nemec, Simon

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Habs get top pair RHD they need

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Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)

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No Lottery Protection

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Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	85 314 999 $	1 132 500 $	5 490 000 $	-2 814 999 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Dadonov, Evgeni 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Nemec, Simon 950 000 $950 000 $ DD RFA - 4	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 3	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DD RFA - 2
Harris, Jordan 842 500 $842 500 $ (507 500 $$508K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1

30 août 2022 à 18 h 55

Not_Isles5513

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No reason for the Devils to do this lol

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30 août 2022 à 18 h 57

Just_A_Guess

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No, I wouldn't

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 0

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Quoting: Isles5513

No reason for the Devils to do this lol

Appreciate the response. These are the reasons I can think of (what are your thoughts?):

1) An additional unprotected top 5 draft pick in the best draft in 20 years with access to "generational talent players"
2) An additional 2nd round pick in 2024
3) The Devils are pretty stacked at RHD and won't have a need for a young star to come in for a number of years, so they may prefer to use the pick to draft for a different organizational need

30 août 2022 à 19 h 2

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Quoting: Just_A_Guess

No, I wouldn't

Don't believe in Nemec?
Too excited about the top 3 this year?
Prefer to get the best player available over organizational need?

30 août 2022 à 19 h 3

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: jonh514

Don't believe in Nemec?
Too excited about the top 3 this year?
Prefer to get the best player available over organizational need?

Devils have no need to move him rn. He was just drafted 2nd overall lol.

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 3

Just_A_Guess

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Quoting: jonh514

Don't believe in Nemec?
Too excited about the top 3 this year?
Prefer to get the best player available over organizational need?

We're not in a rush so why trade our lottery ticket?

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 4

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Bedard, Fantilli, Dvorsky, Michkov would be better than Nemec. It is very possible that Habs get 1 of those 4. So no, Habs decline

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 5

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Quoting: Just_A_Guess

We're not in a rush so why trade our lottery ticket?

My thinking is that the Habs will surprise this year. If I'm right the pick may never have more value than it has right now.

30 août 2022 à 19 h 5

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 5

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Neither team does this lol and Nemec isn't ready for NHL minutes

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 7

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Quoting: raph222b

Bedard, Fantilli, Dvorsky, Michkov would be better than Nemec. It is very possible that Habs get 1 of those 4. So no, Habs decline

Appreciate the response. Not remotely convinced Dvorsky is better than Nemec, but in general I understand where you're coming from!

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 7

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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina

Short and sweet. Thanks for the response.

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 8

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Quoting: jonh514

My thinking is that the Habs will surprise this year. If I'm right the pick may never have more value than it has right now.

Hard to surprise when we cannot be in the playoffs basically automatically. Detroit, Toronto, Tampa, Florida, Ottawa all have teams that are just better, and it would be hard to even be top 5 in the Atlantic.

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 8

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

Neither team does this lol and Nemec isn't ready for NHL minutes

Seems like you're right! Could be good for both teams though.

30 août 2022 à 19 h 9

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Quoting: raph222b

I actually agree with that, but that doesn't stop us from finishing 10th-16th...

30 août 2022 à 19 h 13

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Quoting: Isles5513

Devils have no need to move him rn. He was just drafted 2nd overall lol.

True, though important to remember that was not a pick made on a "best player available" strategy, it was on organizational need. Most would agree Cooley is better than Nemec. Some would argue Wright is as well. Devils don't need Centers but they need wingers and Bedard/Michkov will be the best wingers drafted since Ovechkin.

30 août 2022 à 19 h 13

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Quoting: jonh514

I actually agree with that, but that doesn't stop us from finishing 10th-16th...

that is true...

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 14

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Quoting: raph222b

that is true...

The nightmare scenario...

30 août 2022 à 19 h 16

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Quoting: Isles5513

No reason for the Devils to do this lol

True but they'll be crazy not to take a almost guaranteed top 3 pick in 2023

P.s. habs fans myself included are saying no as well

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 19

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I don't think it works for either side Devils need a top pairing RD and don't need another top center. Habs need both but why risk a generational talent like Bedard for another (don't want to say lesser prospect but I can't think of a better word) lesser prospect. I really like Nemec and wanted the Habs to draft him but Bedard is a very special kid

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 30

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Quoting: Campabee

Bedard & Michkov are wingers in my opinion, but generational talent wingers without question. To be honest if Monahan manages a comeback, the Habs don't really need a C or RW/LW. They need a RHD and a G. Don't get me wrong, EVERY team needs a Bedard/Michkov, but I'm simply saying I like Nemec and he fills a big hole where as Slafkovsky and Caufield are gonna take up a LOT of salary at wing in a couple of years and it's hard to deploy that much cash at wing.

30 août 2022 à 19 h 31

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Devils would not

Only circumstances where I could envision such a trade is a scenario in which these occur:

1. Either Mukhamadullin, Casey, Walsh or one of our other RDs show another level that we didn’t know was there this season.

2. Devils extend Severson long-term (or acquire another top-4 RD that is locked up long-term).

3. The trade occurs after the 2022-23 season and it’s a known top-3 pick.

Otherwise, we’ll keep the bird-in-hand.

(We can give you Tatar back though)

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30 août 2022 à 19 h 32

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Devils would not

Only circumstances where I could envision such a trade is a a scenario in which these occur:

1. Either Mukhamadullin, Casey, Walsh or one of our other RDs show another level that we didn’t know was there this season.

2. Devils extend Severson long-term (or acquire another top-4 RD that is locked up long-term).

3. The trade occurs after the 2022-23 season and it’s a known top-3 pick.

Otherwise, we’ll keep the bird-in-hand.

(We can give you Tatar back though)

Appreciate the response.

Sidebar trade: Tatar for Hoffman and a 2nd?

30 août 2022 à 19 h 34

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Quoting: jonh514

Appreciate the response.

Sidebar trade: Tatar for Hoffman and a 2nd?

We are going to have some mouths to feed next summer, so I doubt it works.

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30 août 2022 à 20 h 48

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Quoting: Isles5513

Devils have no need to move him rn. He was just drafted 2nd overall lol.

Lol ok so you wouldn’t trade Nemec for mcdavid because you just drafted Nemec 2nd overall?!?! Lol

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