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Byram or Girard

Créé par: TampaBayFan94
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 27 août 2022
Publié: 27 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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27 août 2022 à 19 h 31
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Girard is worth more than Miller at this point. What a joke.
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27 août 2022 à 19 h 33
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In before the Avs fans say hell no. Realistically I think Miller for Girard straight up would work for both teams, but I’ve had a few Canucks fans say Girard isn’t the right fit. IMO I’ll take good puck moving Dmen on reasonable contracts all day.
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27 août 2022 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
In before the Avs fans say hell no. Realistically I think Miller for Girard straight up would work for both teams, but I’ve had a few Canucks fans say Girard isn’t the right fit. IMO I’ll take good puck moving Dmen on reasonable contracts all day.


They wouldn’t move Girard unless they got an under control asset at the center position and a 3rd pair lefty d man
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27 août 2022 à 19 h 48
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Girard isn’t a fit with Van and honestly he wasn’t very good last year. That bargain deal is starting to look not much like a bargain anymore. Kaut isn’t really anything at this point.

I don’t think this deal makes sense for vancouver
27 août 2022 à 19 h 50
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It definitely won;t be Byram, you can perish that thought.
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27 août 2022 à 19 h 59
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Girard is worth more than Miller at this point. What a joke.


No he isn’t.

The 3 most overated players on this site:

Girard
PLD
Any Leaf in a Leaf’s fans eyes. 😁
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 1
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
In before the Avs fans say hell no. Realistically I think Miller for Girard straight up would work for both teams, but I’ve had a few Canucks fans say Girard isn’t the right fit. IMO I’ll take good puck moving Dmen on reasonable contracts all day.



I’ll take a 100 point rental over an undersized 2nd pair d man any day 🤷🏻‍♂️. To each their own.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 5
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No he isn’t.

The 3 most overated players on this site:

Girard
PLD
Any Leaf in a Leaf’s fans eyes. 😁


Quoting: Gofnut999
I’ll take a 100 point rental over an undersized 2nd pair d man any day 🤷🏻‍♂️. To each their own.


Girard is a very good d man lol. Even if he’s more of a third guy than a top pair guy that has real value.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 6
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I’ll take a 100 point rental over an undersized 2nd pair d man any day 🤷🏻‍♂️. To each their own.


For sure you do for one season. I just don’t think the Canucks will be extending Miller, so getting another good top 4 Dman under contract for him would be ideal. If that isn’t Girard the it can be someone else.
27 août 2022 à 20 h 11
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For sure you do for one season. I just don’t think the Canucks will be extending Miller, so getting another good top 4 Dman under contract for him would be ideal. If that isn’t Girard the it can be someone else.


For sure they won’t. He wants to play in a US market.

Van need a RD. They don’t need another undersized guy on the left side.
27 août 2022 à 20 h 12
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Girard is a very good d man lol. Even if he’s more of a third guy than a top pair guy that has real value.



He’s good but not as good as people think on here.
And no where near the value of JT, even as a rental.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 13
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He’s good but not as good as people think. And no where near the value of JT, even as a rental.


Then ur overvaluing JT by a significant margin. Girard is good for 40-50 points a year and has great possession metrics. He’s a decent defender too.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 16
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Then ur overvaluing JT by a significant margin. Girard is good for 40-50 points a year and has great possession metrics. He’s a decent defender too.


His career high is 34. See what I mean. Perception on him is so skewed.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 20
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His career high is 34. See what I mean. Perception on him is so skewed.


Two of those years were shortened by Covid and he got hurt last year. Bad take.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 21
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His career high is 34. See what I mean. Perception on him is so skewed.


He had that 34 in 70 games during his 3rd year. He followed that up with 32 points in 48 games. He took a step back this year but he was hurt a little bit and he spent a lot of time with middling d partners.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 23
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Two of those years were shortened by Covid and he got hurt last year. Bad take.


His 82 game average for his career is 33. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 39
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His 82 game average for his career is 33. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Took Dobson two years to start producing. What’s his 82 game average? Doesn’t take away from his ability that’s for damn sure.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 41
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Took Dobson two years to start producing. What’s his 82 game average? Doesn’t take away from his ability that’s for damn sure.


So take his 3 best years. It’s still just at 40.1 per 82. Good production for a defenseman for sure. Helps playing for a high powered offense. Does not change the fact that the perception of him on here is greater than who he really is.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 42
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So take his 3 best years. It’s still just at 40.1 per 82. Good production for a defenseman for sure. Helps playing for a high powered offense. Does not change the fact that the perception of him on here is greater than who he really is.


I mean he’s in his mid 20’s so it’s not like he’s peaked. He’s still producing at a good clip anyway lol.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 45
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No he isn’t.

The 3 most overated players on this site:

Girard
PLD
Any Leaf in a Leaf’s fans eyes. 😁


I’d add Ilya Sorokin to that list he’s a stat-padder now on a terrible islanders team, well not really terrible but you get my point
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 45
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I mean he’s in his mid 20’s so it’s not like he’s peaked. He’s still producing at a good clip anyway lol.


I agree. But he’s still a 2nd pair. A good 3. People act like he’s an all star on here though. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 48
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I agree. But he’s still a 2nd pair. A good 3. People act like he’s an all star on here though. 🤷🏻‍♂️


He’s a good 2. Calling him a 3rd pair guy is completely unreasonable.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 49
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I’d add Ilya Sorokin to that list he’s a stat-padder now on a terrible islanders team, well not really terrible but you get my point



I’d have a hard time getting behind that one. I agree that goalies benefit from playing in a Barry Trotz system. Let’s see what he does this year. But he’s pretty solid.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 51
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He’s a good 2. Calling him a 3rd pair guy is completely unreasonable.



And yet you said above “even if he is more of a 3 than a 1st pair…”

Lol. Make up your mind.
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27 août 2022 à 20 h 53
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And yet you said above “even if he is more of a 3 than a 1st pair…”

Lol. Make up your mind.


When I called him a 3 I meant that his ideal role is as the 3rd d man. He can play top pair, but on a cup contender I’d want him as my #3. I apologize if I phrased it poorly, but I seriously doubt you don’t know what I meant.
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