Valimaki for Leason is interesting.

CGY keeps Dube & their 1st. Would prefer either:

(Toffoli or Hanifin) + Lucic + (Zary OR Ruzicka) FOR Pastranak + (P.Zacha or C.Smith) but BOS would need to move out a couple LD's to make space for Hanifin

CGY would then need to decide whether to re-sign Weegar or Pastrnak long-term, as I don't see them affording both unless both (Hanifin or Toffoli) AND Backlund) are moved in the off-season to make Cap Space and then Coleman would likely need to be moved the next off-season to re-sign Lindholm. Tanev's contract will be up the same year as Lindholm, but will likely be replaced or demoted to 3rd line duties and signed for cheap due to being 34.5 years old

Yeah not a fan of that proposal at all. Especially with Hanifin, moving a 1st pair defenseman while you are contending is just stupid. And Boston likely has little to no interest in Toffoli if they are trading Pasta, you have to consider the other teams needs in proposals. Dube + Ruzicka + 1st gives them something to at least build around for more than 1 year

Nah, B’s pass on that.

Thanks for calling me stupid there buddy 🤦‍♂️

In any event, I don’t think Krejci and Bergeron re-signed for a tear down. Taking on Lucic’s full cap hit would be silly so they simply get a 3rd team to take on 1/2, which should be easy and less than what it cost to dump Monahan as it won’t cost that team (ARI, BUF or ANA) much to do so ($1mil x 50% = $500k in salary = all that’s owed to Lucic), so just cap space

Hanifin who’s worth more like $6.5-7mil/yr would bolster BOS’s Defence. CGY has Weegar who can replace Hanifin at 1LD and lots of Depth, so to move the less physical = didn’t perform so well for us in the playoffs Hanifin for 1yr+ of Pastrnak makes sense to me and for CGY

They’d only be giving up another year on Hanifin (or Toffoli) and the equivalent of a 1st Round Prospect = Zary or Ruzicka + TWO 2nds for taking Lucic in exchange for quality rentals C.Smith or P.Zacha

BOS can build with either Zary or Ruzicka, the TWO 2nds AND Hanifin

I agree they should take Hanifin over Toffoli, I just offered the choice, but the benefit is they’d be getting a $5.5-6.5 million winger for just $4.25mil/yr for the next 2 seasons. Maybe they use him this season and then flip him for more assets next season when the tear down actually begins.

This is BOS’s last chance to contend. Do they need Pastrnak or a Top Pairing Defensemen is the question. Hanifin > Hampus Lindholm but that’d be BOS’s problem

I did factor BOS’s needs but my focus is definitely My Team, just like every other poster here

Where did I call you stupid?

If you think Weegar just simply replaces Hanifin you didn't watch the playoffs last year. Kylington simply cannot carry a pair in the top 4 if someone else goes down. Hanifin's also really not a need in Boston now that they have Lindholm locked up (not sure why you think Hanifin is better than Lindholm, Lindholm is one of the best shutdown defensemen in the league, Tanev caliber). So no they really shouldn't target either. Dube makes way more sense because he's younger and has way more team control, It would also be better for Calgary since Hanifin and Toffoli are far more win now than Dube, Ruzicka, and a 1st

I understand but I wouldn't expect too much more than this kind of return

Honestly, they will most likely just lose him for nothing or resign him, since they won't/can't move him if he's undecided about his future in Boston. And if they are competing, he probably wouldn't come to a decision before the next off-season. In the mean time, Sweeney is going to do everything in his power to retain him. It's probably no accident that they brought in Zacha and he probably begged Krejci to come back to NA for at least another season.

Yes, Weegar > Hanifin. Weegar better everywhere: Physically, Take Away Give Away, Scoring, PP & PK

Hanifin is Very Good, Not Great but he’s Young and comes on a Team Friendly contract for the next 2 season so is a Pretty Valuable Trade Chip. We should cash in on him and BOS paying both Lindholm & Hanifin is no Big Deal, they just need to move Reilly & Grzelcyk out

Trade Valimaki & Kylington as well. Package them (or Hanifin) for Jesper Bratt (or Fabian Zetterlund + other Picks/Prospects and/or Andreas Johnsson 50% retained) + Ryan Graves (or Damon Severson) and/or Carson Soucy + Oliver Bjorkstrand + Ryan Donato

Hanifin & Kylington are just not Physical or Mature enough. Needs to sell high and upgrade the Team with them. If we can get a late 2nd or early 3rd RD Pick for Valimaki or better yet equivalent player/prospect that can help us now, that’d be great. Mackey deserves the spot more

Any Pasta trade would be under the assumption that Boston is simply not in a playoff position

I never said Weegar wasn't better than Hanifin but Hanifin and Weegar are also >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kylington. It's as simple as Weegar and Hanifin should be the future moving forward.

And I’m saying Weegar, Anderson and 2 or either Soucy, Graves & Severson should be CGY’s Future Top-4 + get a Forward/Prospect or few and try to dump Lucic for Hanifin, Kylington & Valimaki + Pieces to balance it out, but don’t give up Dube & a 1st Round Pick if possible

This isn't EA sports you cant just add players randomly. Otherwise I would undo the Kadri signing and go all in on Barzal next year

If Leason can't get one of the current scratches and loses out to Snively or someone else, this seems fair. I think the Caps would prefer someone on the right side but I don't think they would mind Valimaki if he can supplant Gustafsson or Johansen.

Its less about the caps specifically needing a RD and more about them having 5 pending UFA defensemen and no guarantees next year.

Correct, but with 9.8 mil likely freed up due to the going thought that Backstrom won't be around after next year, I don't think it will be a huge issue, especially as Fehervary will be an RFA. Also with Brown and Strome expiring and one or both of them probably not returning I think Washington should be able to retain Orlov, Jensen, and Fehervary without issue and with Alexeyev under contract it still leaves Valimaki without a spot.

If the Caps can flip him and/or Backstrom manages to make his way back from hip surgery, I think it's a deal, I just don't think Valimaki would be someone they look at as much if neither of those things seem feasible.

Maybe, I just see Washington's defense depth relatively thin. So I figured this was a move they could make with little to no harm. Valimaki simply isn't going to get his chance in Calgary and Leason's are looking pretty slim in Washington

The frustrating thing from the Caps side is that this would have made so much more sense had DC not gone out and acquired Gustafsson. Having Valimaki Alexeyev, and Johansen battle for the 3LD spot would have been a good way to gauge the LDs in the system but Gustafsson being here makes the whole situation far more complicated.

At this point I hope that Leason is able to supplant Johansson on the 4th line as it seems to be they only way to get him and Snively on the NHL roster. Otherwise, Leason probably ends up as a scratch until Wilson returns because MacLellan doesn't seem to realize that he his not outlawed from making trades on dates other than the deadline and day 1 of free agency.

Meh, I don't think having Gus makes that big of a difference, He could just as easily be your #7 and you place Irwin in the minors

Swap Zary for Coronato i’d be more interested. I know B’s need centers. I’m leery of Zary’s offense at the NHL level. Will it be enough to be a 2nd line center. I’m not sure.

I can't see Boston trading Pasta for a player that more or less forces their hand into *having* to make another two trades when half the league will be lining up to try and trade for him. And if they're moving Pastrnak, I would have to assume they're out of playoff position and trying to do a retool/rebuild on the fly and would want at least a 1st round pick coming back with the package.

I don't think that changes anything in terms of timelines, Pastrnak will probably be undecided about his future and he'll take his time to figure it out. It's possible that he already knows where he would want to go and if he wants to leave Boston but that's probably less likely.

Only way I would think that Boston would want to trade him, and maybe he would be open to it, is if they are out of contention, he's uncertain if he wants to resign, and the Bruins have the chance to acquire a star player, but they don't close the door on Pastrnak returning via FA. For example, they trade Pastrnak as a rental to Vancouver for Jt Miller+something that offsets the trade if Pastrnak resigns there. Bos signs Miller and tries to add Pastrnak.

Or Bos moves him in a more permanent move will be like acquiring Barzal for him (if he wanted out) or Larkin+ if Detroit wanted to move on from him.

Does that calculation only work for teams not using LTIR? I assume so since it would give a largely inflated TDL cap availability number.

Yeah, I agree it would likely be a Deadline Trade for Pastrnak if BOS is out of the Playoff Picture and he doesn't want to stick around through a re-set/build.

BOS has wanted Hanifin for a very long time and at just 25.5, he would be in their long-term plans, signing him to a 7-8 year extension next off-season if they were to acquire him. Like CGY, BOS has a ton of LD's, so should be looking to move Reilly, Forbort & Grzelcyk out between now and this time next year, which will open up almost $10 million in Cap Space, but more importantly open up roster spots for Younger Guys they can build around with Hanfin-McAvoy being their set Top-Pairing.

No rush on BOS's part unless they feel the move makes sense now and maybe Matthew Coronato needs to be dangled in addition to Hanifin as well, but Pastrnak would have to be coming back to CGY with an extension in place for sure for Coronato to be going the other way

Yeah, it probably costs CGY both Coronato + Hanifin to get Pastrnak with an extension in place + something to balance the Trade out

I'm talking targets, obviously trades would need to happen to acquire them this season, otherwise might be able to pursue them as FA's next off-season.

I'd rather have Kadri over Barzal all day long. He's a Champion & Brings the Sand Paper Style Play & Performance you need in the Playoffs. Barzal being younger would be the better value over a full 7 year deal, but Kadri gives CGY a much better chance of Winning in the Playoffs, so does Huberdeau

Pretty clear to me that Treliving is going for it and investing in Players at their Peak now to try and Win the Cup and be a Top Contender over the next 3-5 years and then will deal them or look to re-set-rebuild starting in 2026-27 when Kadri can be moved through 2029-30 when Huberdeau can be moved, both at the age of 35