Quoting: exo2769
Ask Canes fans on here how good Scott Morrow is. Ask Canes fans on here how good Gunler is. Ask Canes fans on here how good Kochetkov is. Ask Canes fans on here how good Drury is. Leading your team to the Calder Cup title is far more impressive than MHL/VHL success. Heck, Pashin isn't even CAR's best Russian...Forward...prospect. Ponomarev and Trikozov are better prospects. Seriously! You're just trying to sell me a Honda Accord, but call it a Ferrari. It's a car. It's serviceable, but it's not getting Patrick Kane.
Morrow- best canes prospect. Arguably top 30 prospect in the NHL but logically closer to late 30s early 40s
Gunler- definitely fell in his draft year but has been lack luster so far in my opinion. He performed decently in the SHL this past season but he is closer to a 7-8 prospect in the canes pool IMO.
Kochetkov- no question the canes 2nd best prospect. Was drafted as an overager but he has shown being worth every bit of the pick. He played well in Russia and continued his success in the AHL and even got into some NHL games too. Kochetkov could be a back up this year but the canes are being smart with their development on him.
Drury- definitely would have been an NHLer on 25 other teams. The canes are just better and therefore let him marinate in the AHL. He hasn’t carried his success in development into recent years but he is still a good player nonetheless. I was higher on him after the 2020-2021 season after his massive SHL success. He has solid middle 6 upside.
Ponomarev- had a very up and down season. Played in the KHL VHL MHL and AHL. He was best in the AHL and MHL. That is almost expected however as he was a KHL talent playing in the MHL. Coming to America he was expected to play well. His KHL stats are lackluster as he was playing under 5 minutes a game. His VHL stats are pretty bad imo. He got plenty of opportunity yet was lackluster in it.
Gleb- he is gleb. I liked gleb. I say no more no less.
Pashin- heavily slept on prospect. He was projected to go in the first 3 rounds of the 2020 draft but surprise surprise, the Russian factor. Look at him as a prospect similar to grudinin from this past draft who also went to carolina. They have the skill to be a first round prospect, that’s not debated, but they fell due to being Russian and undersized. 5’8 forward pashin and 5’10 defenseman grudinin. Pashin was mocked by button at 56 and Mackenzie at 89. To be taken at 199 is criminal for pashin. Not to mention those were mock drafts who ranked him there including the Russian factor and the fact he is undersized. I remember reading reports on pashin after the draft that if he were already in America, he could have competed for a first round spot. He performed in the VHL like how you would want a 19 year old to play in the VHL.
The canes prospect pool is so deep so in those rankings he is ranked as an HM or near the bottom. Put him in a pool that isn’t deep, I’ll use your hawks for example, pre 2022 draft because that was when those rankings were from, he would be 4th in their pool, bias aside. I could argue third too. Riechel and commesso are 1-2, and then you could put Mitchell or Dach. I believe pashin is better than both of those guys but I am saying 4th to rid the bias. Now post draft. I would honestly put pashin over anybody other than riechel nazar korchinski commesso and maybe rinzel (I don’t like rinzel but I won’t disrespect your guy). Pashin is still 5th or 6th in chicagos pool, post draft with 3 first round picks.
To rank the canes prospects I have the list as follows:
1) morrow
2) gleb
3) kochetkov
4) drury
5) Gunler
6) Pashin
7) nikishin (would be higher but signed in KHL for 5 more years)
8) Ponomarev
9) Suzuki
10) Rees
I think pashin could be higher too as his upside is higher than drury and Gunler but I am knocking him because of size. Anyways you said ask canes fans how good these players are and I delivered. I will not say anything more but this is what you asked for.