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Créé par: Dr_Invictus
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 6 août 2022
Publié: 6 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Maybe I'm not creative enough, but I don't see the flames being able to trade Monahan. Most teams will want a pick to take his contract and the flames will need to fill a 2C role anyways. It is likely better to see if he is healthy this year and ride out the contract. If he is healthy, it wouldn't be the worst to play in with Huby for a stint, if only to regain some confidence.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
1850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
2775 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Foligno, Nick
Détails additionnels:
Folignos contract is garbage, but it provides Calgary some cap relief. IMo Lucic adds more value, but Calgary needs cap if they want to upgrade FWDs.
BOS
  1. Lucic, Milan
Détails additionnels:
"Homecoming" for Lucic's retirement.
2.
CGY
  1. Keller, Clayton
Détails additionnels:
I know this looks like a Hodge Podge trade, but hear me out: Keller's value is only decreasing on the coyotes relative to his AAV. Playing in Arizona only hurts his numbers and value. His deal isn't a steal in any other team (except buffalo Arizona or Anaheim, where Cap space is less of an issue for now. Thus, money needs to come back to facilitate any trade. I think Keller could flourish on a better team. Same said for Philips and Valimaki, who have yet to be NHL regulars due to Calgary's depth at those positions and habit of letting players sit in AHL too long.
ARI
  1. Foligno, Nick
  2. Phillips, Matthew
  3. Välimäki, Juuso
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Calgary flips Foligno with 1 year left. This makes the AAV work and Arizona will need to make the cap floor with Keller off the books. They are tanking for Bedard. Thus, the trade is two solid prospects, a 2nd and a 1st for Keller.
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6 août 2022 à 11 h 43
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Not close to enough for Keller
6 août 2022 à 11 h 48
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Keller is a fantastic player, it will cost a lot more than that
6 août 2022 à 11 h 53
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Not close to enough for Keller


His numbers indicate otherwise. He has cracked 65 points once. Compare that Mangiapane.
6 août 2022 à 11 h 55
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Keller is a fantastic player, it will cost a lot more than that


He could be a fantastic player. He is in Arizona and putting up moderate numbers relative to his AAV. I wouldn't include Coronato in this package for Keller.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: Dr_Invictus
His numbers indicate otherwise. He has cracked 65 points once. Compare that Mangiapane.


If that’s your belief, why trade for him and his 7 mil cap hit in the first place?
6 août 2022 à 12 h 2
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He could be a fantastic player. He is in Arizona and putting up moderate numbers relative to his AAV. I wouldn't include Coronato in this package for Keller.


I think 63 points in 67 games on the worst team in the league is a fair bit better than "moderate." I think he is easily an 80 point player on a good team. He's better than Reinhart and look what he did last year
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6 août 2022 à 12 h 3
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Nick Foligno has a 16 team no trade list, Pretty much guarantee you 100% that Arizona is one of those 16 teams.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 5
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Ouch.

Two 'prospects', one which will surely be on waivers (Phillips) and one whom has a chance to be on waivers (Valimaki), one of the worst players in the NHL last year (I'm looking at you Andres Bjork), a 2025 1st and a 2024 2nd. All that for a player so bad he's playing 1st line ahead of both Tyler Toffoli, who cost Calgary much more, and Mangiapane.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 5
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We don't need 34 year old Lucic back who is averaging 21 point per season at $5,250,000 a season.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 6
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He could be a fantastic player. He is in Arizona and putting up moderate numbers relative to his AAV. I wouldn't include Coronato in this package for Keller.


Almost a ppg with Barrett Hayton as his center. On a line with Huberdeau and Lindholm is a slight upgrade.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 17
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Bruins add $1.45M (when they need cap space) for pretty much the same player. No reason for them to do this.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 20
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Boston can’t add cap. Foligno blocks with NTC.
6 août 2022 à 12 h 40
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Ya know I understand his NTC but that’s solid and something like that could happen for Lucic.

You may have to retain salary tho.
6 août 2022 à 13 h 20
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Bruins aren't adding cap
6 août 2022 à 13 h 48
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Nick Foligno has a 16 team no trade list, Pretty much guarantee you 100% that Arizona is one of those 16 teams.


Pretty much guarantee all of Canada, Arizona, Buffalo, Seattle still leaves 6 teams. Lol.
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6 août 2022 à 15 h 5
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Bruins can't add cap, Jimmy Murphy made up the Lucic homecoming rumour bc it's been a slow summer for clicks. Would be easier for BOS to send Foligno to PRO and save just over 1mil then move him
6 août 2022 à 15 h 11
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Pretty much guarantee all of Canada, Arizona, Buffalo, Seattle still leaves 6 teams. Lol.


You're probably right. I guess you could just bench him until he waives. I'm assuming the only people who waive to go to Arizona are those looking to retire and know their career is over.
6 août 2022 à 15 h 12
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Ya know I understand his NTC but that’s solid and something like that could happen for Lucic.

You may have to retain salary tho.


Lucic would waive for Boston.
6 août 2022 à 16 h 51
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Lucic would waive for Boston.


No I was talking bout Foglino
6 août 2022 à 16 h 54
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No I was talking bout Foglino


Ah, ok. My mistake. I thi k the trade makes sense, but I don't know what reasons Foligno has to stay in Boston for one more year.
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