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Habs blockbuster

Créé par: MTLaveragefan
Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2022
Publié: 5 juill. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Explications
I saw a Barrie for Poehling and a 3rd trade by a EDM fans, then I propose a bigger trade - here it is:
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Yamamoto, Kailer42 900 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. 2022 2e round pick (MTL)
  4. 2022 3e round pick (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
33rd OVR
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  2. Barrie, Tyson
Rachats de contrats
  • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
  • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1882 500 000 $79 069 795 $896 000 $2 200 000 $3 430 205 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Hyman, Zach
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Yamamoto, Kailer
2 900 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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Draisaitl, Leon
8 500 000 $
C, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
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Holloway, Dylan
925 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Foegele, Warren
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Ryan, Derek
1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Kassian, Zack
3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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Shore, Devin
850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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Poehling, Ryan
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Nurse, Darnell
9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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Bouchard, Evan
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Ceci, Cody
3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Skinner, Stuart
750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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Broberg, Philip
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Klefbom, Oscar
4 167 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Smith, Mike
2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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5 juill. à 14 h 10
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The Habs DO NOT need another right shot D. In very good shape there.....
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Quoting: swinny
The Habs DO NOT need another right shot D. In very good shape there.....


They’re about to trade Petry which would leave only Savard and Wideman as NHL right shot d’s. Barron goes to the A one more year. How is that “good shape”
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I’m very biased towards Poehling, so I don’t think I’d do the deal. But if Barrie = Poehling + 3rd, Pulju = Allen + 33 is a really poor trade for the Habs.
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Oilers decline.
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Edmonton is loosing this by miles. Allen is a quality back up not a starter already have skinner to play that role.
Barrie like him or not was a solid contributor during the playoffs that's two key guys going out for replacement level players. The draft picks don't justify the significant step backwards.
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"Worst team in hockey trades away picks" is kinda odd, no?
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5 juill. à 14 h 29
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Habs would be stupid to trade the 33rd pick, they said loud and clear they want to move up so they'll be better off holding on to it for now
5 juill. à 14 h 37
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LOL

I take from the habs fan saying we are loosing and EDM saying they are loosing that the trade is somehow pretty fair value.

I think Barrie will answer a need as a PMD on RD after the departure of Petry.

The poolparty trade is in the optic that Anderson is moved at the draft. Poolparty brings a similar toolbox than Anderson but will be around and still young when MTL is ready to compete.
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Allen is not the solution
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Quoting: TheBooger69
Allen is not the solution


He is in the quality/caphit that Oilers need and can afford. They don't have the flexibility to get a 5-6M$ starter - at 2.8M, Allen is the best Oiler can get.
6 juill. à 7 h 10
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Quoting: MP55
They’re about to trade Petry which would leave only Savard and Wideman as NHL right shot d’s. Barron goes to the A one more year. How is that “good shape”


Montreal is thin on the right side D, no doubt. But I would not be willing to pay for Barrie. As you have seen in my comments before, I think Edmonton has to pay to get rid of him. But I do think Montreal is ok for this year. Romanov, Schuneman, and Clague (if he comes back) can play the right side if needed. They aren't looking to compete for a playoff spot imo. I also think Barron starts this season in the NHL. But I would not be opposed to him starting in Laval to let him develop. Him and Harris.
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Montreal is thin on the right side D, no doubt. But I would not be willing to pay for Barrie. As you have seen in my comments before, I think Edmonton has to pay to get rid of him. But I do think Montreal is ok for this year. Romanov, Schuneman, and Clague (if he comes back) can play the right side if needed. They aren't looking to compete for a playoff spot imo. I also think Barron starts this season in the NHL. But I would not be opposed to him starting in Laval to let him develop. Him and Harris.


I actually expect KH to sign some old vets at RD like Stralman ect - they explicitly said they don't want 3 rookies running the D.

No point in rushing Ghule or Barron - let them crush it in the AHL and really fine-tune their skill and abilities. Lets tank again next year- Its two great years to tank.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
I actually expect KH to sign some old vets at RD like Stralman ect - they explicitly said they don't want 3 rookies running the D.

No point in rushing Ghule or Barron - let them crush it in the AHL and really fine-tune their skill and abilities. Lets tank again next year- Its two great years to tank.


I would have no problem with that at all. Guys who will cost next to nothing, who can just fill the gap for this year. And if they play well enough that they force their way into the lineup, let them play. Simple.
The top 2 next year is insane. It is possible that Bedard and Michkov will be franchise players (not McDavid or Matthews, but a step below that). Another bottom two pick in 2023 would definitely set this franchise up for a long time imo.
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I would have no problem with that at all. Guys who will cost next to nothing, who can just fill the gap for this year. And if they play well enough that they force their way into the lineup, let them play. Simple.
The top 2 next year is insane. It is possible that Bedard and Michkov will be franchise players (not McDavid or Matthews, but a step below that). Another bottom two pick in 2023 would definitely set this franchise up for a long time imo.


Exactly - I want them to tank next year... and trading Petry/Anderson/Allen/Dvorak helps us do that.
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They’re about to trade Petry which would leave only Savard and Wideman as NHL right shot d’s. Barron goes to the A one more year. How is that “good shape”


Because Petry isn't likely move given how many RD are available as UFAs (and good ones), and Barron makes the team on the 3rd pairing imo.
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Because Petry isn't likely move given how many RD are available as UFAs (and good ones), and Barron makes the team on the 3rd pairing imo.

The top UFA right-shot defencemen, per previous cap hit:

Subban, PK
Letang, Kris (he’s getting resigned)
Klingberg, John
Stralman, Anton
Manson, Josh
Shultz, Justin
Miller, Colin
Gudbranson, Erik
Braun, Justin
Stecher, Troy

Damn that’s a really deep pool, lots of potential top-pairing or high end second pairing guys on that list.
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The top UFA right-shot defencemen, per previous cap hit:

Subban, PK
Letang, Kris (he’s getting resigned)
Klingberg, John
Stralman, Anton
Manson, Josh
Shultz, Justin
Miller, Colin
Gudbranson, Erik
Braun, Justin
Stecher, Troy

Damn that’s a really deep pool, lots of potential top-pairing or high end second pairing guys on that list.


Point proven. Thanks! Because taking cap hit as a barometer of talent is what I do lol
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Point proven. Thanks! Because taking cap hit as a barometer of talent is what I do lol


The list I've presented to you is merely sorted by previous cap hit, it's not ranked. But if that's your big take away from this then there's no point arguing with you.
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The list I've presented to you is merely sorted by previous cap hit, it's not ranked. But if that's your big take away from this then there's no point arguing with you.


Well, I stand by Petry mot moving, especially after having moved Romanov.
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Well, I stand by Petry mot moving, especially after having moved Romanov.


Dude I don’t even know what to think anymore. Tonight has broken my brain. If Petry gets traded great, if he doesn’t great. I can’t think anymore
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Dude I don’t even know what to think anymore. Tonight has broken my brain. If Petry gets traded great, if he doesn’t great. I can’t think anymore


Those were my thoughts too.

What started to look like a hard rebuild is now a retool. Just effin' weird on so many levels.
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Those were my thoughts too.

What started to look like a hard rebuild is now a retool. Just effin' weird on so many levels.


Still don’t know what to think about the Romy for Dach move. I stopped thinking about the Habs’ plan for the future after that one.
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