DeBrincat Trade From The Athletic

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Créé par: Alfie11

Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa

Date de création initiale: 29 juin 2022

Publié: 29 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Ian Mendes (Sens beat writer) and Scott Powers (Hawks beat writer) wrote an article today exploring the idea of trading DeBrincat to Ottawa. The conclusion was (unsurprisingly) that Ottawa would very much like a 24yo 2-time 40 goal winger and that Chicago is probably leaning towards a full tear down at this point due to having no prospect pipeline, no playoff hopes, and no 1st round pick (all thanks to Stan Bowman). Anyway this is the deal they came up with. I really like Greig and JBD (JBD is slightly more expendable because we have Thomson, but I hate giving up Greig) and think the Hawks will be getting 3 good NHLers out of this (7oa should be a top 6 winger, Greig will probably be a middle six centre or could get shifted to the wing, and JBD still projects as a 2nd pair RD). But I’d still take it as the Sens.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Norris, Joshua	8	7 750 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu	2	2 000 000 $
Formenton, Alex	4	2 750 000 $
Brännström, Erik	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

OTT

DeBrincat, Alex

CHI

Bernard-Docker, Jacob
Greig, Ridly
Murray, Matt (1 562 500 $ retained)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TBL)

OTT

ARI

Crookshank, Angus
Zaitsev, Nikita
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)

Rachats de contrats

Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (33.33%)

Enfoui

Michael Del Zotto: 875 000 $ (2 000 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	68 515 714 $	0 $	4 450 000 $	13 984 286 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tkachuk, Brady 8 205 714 $8 205 714 $ AG UFA - 6	Norris, Joshua 7 750 000 $7 750 000 $ C UFA - 8	Joseph, Mathieu 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
DeBrincat, Alex 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Stützle, Tim 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C UFA - 1	Batherson, Drake 4 975 000 $4 975 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5
Formenton, Alex 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG RFA	Pinto, Shane 925 000 $925 000 $ (600 000 $$600K) C RFA - 1	Brown, Connor 3 600 000 $3 600 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker 762 500 $762 500 $ AG RFA - 2	White, Colin 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
		Watson, Austin 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Chabot, Thomas 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Hamonic, Travis 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 3
Sanderson, Jake 925 000 $925 000 $ (925 000 $$925K) DG UFA - 2	Zub, Artem 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Gustavsson, Filip 787 500 $787 500 $ G UFA - 1
Holden, Nick 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Thomson, Lassi 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Brännström, Erik 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG/DD, AG RFA - 1
Gambrell, Dylan 950 000 $950 000 $ C UFA - 1
Kastelic, Mark 821 667 $821 667 $ C, AD RFA - 1

29 juin 2022 à 14 h 6

littlejerryseinfeld

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If they extend him its worth it

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 7

Lenny7

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

If they extend him its worth it

Agreed. I feel like there were a few of us that had it as a top 10-15 protected 2023 1st around here last week, but it seemed reasonably popular (which is rare here

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 18

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Hawks should walk from that offer. They should be willing to take on Murray's cap dump without any retention, but remove JBD and include Pinto

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 19

NHLfan10506

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It’s a very strong offer. Not sure who tops that.

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 22

csick

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Quoting: ChiHawk

Hawks should walk from that offer. They should be willing to take on Murray's cap dump without any retention, but remove JBD and include Pinto

I don’t think they will include both Pinto and Greig. To me it’s like :
Formenton/Joseph , JBD/Thomson , Pinto/Greig. They will never trade 2 of them guys in the same tier

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 29

ChiHawk

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think they will include both Pinto and Greig. To me it’s like :
Formenton/Joseph , JBD/Thomson , Pinto/Greig. They will never trade 2 of them guys in the same tier

Depends what they think about their centers. If they view Stutzle as a C and Norris is locked then it makes sense. Keeping Pinto and Greig around for a 3C role doesn't make a ton of sense since 3C is a much easier position to fill then top 6 C. If they view Greig, Pinto or Stutzle as a winger then I get it but having 4 young prospects players who are top 6 Cs gives the perfect reason to move at least 1 if not 2 to turn a different position of current weakness into a strength.

Something we might not see coming, is a trade involving Cat for Norris and some other pieces with Ottawa keeping Pinto, Greig and obviously Stutzle.

29 juin 2022 à 14 h 31

csick

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Quoting: ChiHawk

If they trade both, we have no 3C. White isn’t good enough

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 36

Neptune12

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think they will include both Pinto and Greig. To me it’s like :
Formenton/Joseph , JBD/Thomson , Pinto/Greig. They will never trade 2 of them guys in the same tier

Just let the hawks fan believe what he wants. He is very Biased towards the hawks and sees debrincats value above McDavids. LOL

29 juin 2022 à 14 h 38

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Quoting: csick

If they trade both, we have no 3C. White isn’t good enough

chicago buddy was asking for pinto, Greig, 7oa and 2023 first for debrincat smh.

29 juin 2022 à 14 h 41

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Quoting: Neptune12

chicago buddy was asking for pinto, Greig, 7oa and 2023 first for debrincat smh.

Sounds like Sens and Devils are battling for Fiala rn. Whoever loses will probably go after Debrincat

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 42

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Quoting: csick

Sounds like Sens and Devils are battling for Fiala rn. Whoever loses will probably go after Debrincat

Yikes I don't want Debrincat for the price Chicago fans are asking. its got Karlsson trade all over it... but were the sharks.

29 juin 2022 à 14 h 55

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Quoting: csick

Sounds like Sens and Devils are battling for Fiala rn. Whoever loses will probably go after Debrincat

This is why I tell others, especially Devils fans right now. That Guerin absolutely has leverage in negotiations. The market may be saturated with wingers right now. But if the choice is to either overpay in UFA for a player who is, yes, better... but is also older and will cost more in AAV to sign. Or trade for someone who is younger or older, will cost more to acquire, and will cost more to resign in just a years time. You go after Fiala first.

Fiala remains the #1 trade target in the league because of his age, cost to acquire, and cost to resign vs everyone else. Including trade targets and UFA's. All of this heavily plays into Guerin's favor.

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29 juin 2022 à 14 h 58

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Quoting: RazWild

This is why I tell others, especially Devils fans right now. That Guerin absolutely has leverage in negotiations. The market may be saturated with wingers right now. But if the choice is to either overpay in UFA for a player who is, yes, better... but is also older and will cost more in AAV to sign. Or trade for someone who is younger, will cost more to acquire, and will cost more to resign in just a years time. You go after Fiala first.

Fiala remains the #1 trade target in the league because of his age, cost to acquire, and cost to resign vs everyone else. Including trade targets and UFA's. All of this heavily plays into Guerin's favor.

It’ll be a Middle ground imo. A deal hopefully both teams like . Marco Kasper or Cutter Gauthier could be great fits for Minny

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29 juin 2022 à 15 h 6

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Quoting: csick

It’ll be a Middle ground imo. A deal hopefully both teams like . Marco Kasper or Cutter Gauthier could be great fits for Minny

For sure. And I really like Kasper, although I'm not all that interested in CG. But if we do manage to snag 7th overall I 100% want us to go after Savoie. If possible.

Hopefully Kasper would still be sitting there for us at 24th OVA and we could walk away with both Savoie and Kasper from the 1st round. But that's wishful thinking on my part, I don't see Kasper dropping that far.

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29 juin 2022 à 15 h 9

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Quoting: RazWild

Strong chance Savoie will be available at 7 . Kemell could too. Gauthier could, Kasper could. Only 1 of them will be taken before 7

29 juin 2022 à 15 h 23

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Quoting: csick

Strong chance Savoie will be available at 7 . Kemell could too. Gauthier could, Kasper could. Only 1 of them will be taken before 7

I typically see Kasper going in the mid teens, where have you seen that he has a chance to go in the top ten? It's typically Nazar that I see that has that potential.

29 juin 2022 à 15 h 30

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Quoting: RazWild

I typically see Kasper going in the mid teens, where have you seen that he has a chance to go in the top ten? It's typically Nazar that I see that has that potential.

He’s been rising up a lot of draft boards recently thanks to a good world championships, and also one of the few players with speed, skill, and size that projects as an NHL centre (also the reason Gauthier has entered the consensus top 6). He’s a popular choice to Detroit at 8 in mock drafts, I’ve seen him to Ottawa at 7 too, and not lower than Winnipeg at 14 (by Scott Wheeler, who is much lower on him than most, and picked him after Geekie in that mock which I don’t think will happen in real life) in a while. Pronman has him ranked at 9 and has mock drafted him at 8 twice (and Bultman mocked him there too). An NHL source the Athletic worked with took him at 7 in a mock. Bob McKenzie has him ranked at 10.

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29 juin 2022 à 15 h 44

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Quoting: Alfie11

Interesting.

Thanks for the info! 👍

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29 juin 2022 à 20 h 13

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Quoting: csick

Sounds like Sens and Devils are battling for Fiala rn. Whoever loses will probably go after Debrincat

Both missed out.

Cat won't be cheap. Will come down to what the teams are prepared to put on the table. IMO NJD could give us a better package if they choose but OTT can still offer a strong package. Im not convinced by the Athletic articles price either.

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