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Troubas Value

Créé par: Vermathex
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2022
Publié: 20 juin 2022
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Explications
Next Season with the development of our young D on the right side (schneider and nils) and his massive cap hit trouba will have to be moved. Trying to gage some of his value in these trades. Im also trying to take into account his NMC/NTC with no canadian trades.
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. 2023 3e round pick (DET)
  2. 2023 2e round pick (STL)
DET
  1. Trouba, Jacob (2 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
My thinking is detroit gets a serviceable, physical defensemen at a decent cap hit for 3 more years. at the time of this trade hronek will have one more year left and can play behind trouba and sieder.
2.
NYR
  1. 2023 4e round pick (BUF)
BUF
    Trouba
    No Retention

    correct me if i'm wrong but theres dahlin on the right side paired with power for the next 10 years then not much more help coming on the Right side. I would imagine they will address it this draft, but depending on the prospect it could take time for them to be an NHL reg. trouba provides a good stop gap between that time.
    Rachats de contrats
    • Brad Richards: 0 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Jacob Trouba: 2 000 000 $ (25%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    1383 500 000 $57 307 025 $0 $875 000 $26 192 975 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Panarin, Artemi
    11 642 857 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Zibanejad, Mika
    8 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Kreider, Chris
    6 500 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Goodrow, Barclay
    3 641 667 $
    AG, C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Lindgren, Ryan
    3 000 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
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    Rempe, Matthew
    820 000 $
    C
    RFA - 2
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    Shesterkin, Igor
    5 666 667 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Trivigno, Bobby
    925 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
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    Fox, Adam
    9 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
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    Othmann, Brennan
    894 167 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
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    Henriksson, Karl
    870 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Nemeth, Patrik
    2 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Edström, Adam
    846 667 $
    C
    RFA - 2

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    20 juin à 13 h 24
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    logic on the trouba deal is fine but he's got no reason to waive.
    20 juin à 13 h 24
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    Wings probably accept that deal.
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    20 juin à 13 h 27
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    Detroit really doesn't need retention on Trouba, But as is we accept.
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    20 juin à 13 h 28
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    Trouba would be nice if that was his cost, and he would come here
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    20 juin à 13 h 34
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    maybe larkin
    20 juin à 13 h 36
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    Quoting: Stadel
    logic on the trouba deal is fine but he's got no reason to waive.


    if he doesn't waive then the next year after (2 from now) he has a 15 team no trade. i guess we could wait until then. with only 2 years left on his deal it may be more attractive to other teams.
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    20 juin à 13 h 37
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    Quoting: Vermathex
    if he doesn't waive then the next year after (2 from now) he has a 15 team no trade. i guess we could wait until then. with only 2 years left on his deal it may be more attractive to other teams.


    Rangers are going to have to wait awhile. He isn’t waiving his NMC.
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    20 juin à 13 h 39
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    He has a NMC for 2 more seasons for a reason. He laughs at posts like this. It's like beating a dead horse. But in a dreamland scenario like this, retained, there would be a bidding war
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    20 juin à 14 h 10
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    maybe larkin


    Yeah because that will happen.
    20 juin à 14 h 18
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    what is the obsession for Ranger fans trading Trouba?
    sure, he is slightly overpaid but he is a valuable part of the Ranger blueline.
    trading Trouba puts too much pressure on Lindgren to become the only stand up dman.

    Trouba has way more value than Copp or Strome.
    he doesn't need to be traded, at least in the near future.

    This is also putting a lot of faith in Schenider being able to move up to the 2nd pairing full time and Nils becoming a full time NHLer.
    in my opinion, Trouba will be on this roster for at least the next 3 years, if not playing out the full contract.
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    20 juin à 14 h 56
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    Yeah because that will happen.


    wont happen but it's fair imo
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    20 juin à 15 h 5
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    Quoting: Stadel
    logic on the trouba deal is fine but he's got no reason to waive.


    I'm not saying he will waive for Detroit but once Kelly is done with her residency Trouba waiving could happen. I think she finishes just before the next offseason and that's why this team is for the 2023-24 season.
    20 juin à 15 h 21
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    wont happen but it's fair imo


    Ok and I respect that but I really don't think it is. For the 1st time since Zetterberg was still a Wing Larkin was able to stay on the 1st line and build chemistry with a winer (Raymond). That's because Suter, Bertuzzi and Fabbri were able to score on a regular basis. Ideally Detroit and Larkin would've loved it if Bertuzzi could have spent all season on that line as well. Larkin finished 22nd in points among centers this season and took a big step towards being a #1C and as he gets more help he will continue to get better.
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Ok and I respect that but I really don't think it is. For the 1st time since Zetterberg was still a Wing Larkin was able to stay on the 1st line and build chemistry with a winer (Raymond). That's because Suter, Bertuzzi and Fabbri were able to score on a regular basis. Ideally Detroit and Larkin would've loved it if Bertuzzi could have spent all season on that line as well. Larkin finished 22nd in points among centers this season and took a big step towards being a #1C and as he gets more help he will continue to get better.


    yea he had a good redemption season but he's a rental now. trouba also had a good season. put up 40 points and what lighting up everyone this season. he and seider would make a very formidable back end. trouba comes with 4 years of control and with $2m retention. frankly i think the wings might have to add.
    20 juin à 18 h 19
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    yea he had a good redemption season but he's a rental now. trouba also had a good season. put up 40 points and what lighting up everyone this season. he and seider would make a very formidable back end. trouba comes with 4 years of control and with $2m retention. frankly i think the wings might have to add.


    Like I said not going to happen and i99f you think it will you know a lot less about Detroit than you think.
    20 juin à 18 h 48
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Like I said not going to happen and i99f you think it will you know a lot less about Detroit than you think.


    Apparently a 1C is less valuable than an overpaid 3-4 D.
    20 juin à 18 h 58
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    Quoting: Stadel
    logic on the trouba deal is fine but he's got no reason to waive.
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    Trouba would be nice if that was his cost, and he would come here
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    Rangers are going to have to wait awhile. He isn’t waiving his NMC.
    Trouba, Varlamov, improvement among all players under 24 and another RHD would make the Sabres in the playoff hunt.
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Like I said not going to happen and i99f you think it will you know a lot less about Detroit than you think.


    nyr is pretty unlikely to retain 4x$2m. detroit probably wont move larkin either but we know now hes not untouchable
    21 juin à 12 h 48
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    nyr is pretty unlikely to retain 4x$2m. detroit probably wont move larkin either but we know now hes not untouchable


    Using that logic no one is untouchable but like Fox Larkin won't make it to free agency.
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    Quoting: aedoran
    Using that logic no one is untouchable but like Fox Larkin won't make it to free agency.


    well not everyone. seider and raymond are untouchable. everyone else yzerman is willing to move
     
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