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Trading the Whole Team Pt 1

Créé par: Neon75
Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2022
Publié: 15 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Ducks d'Anaheim
Explications
Obviously super unrealistic deals. If you have edits to the trades, which I know you will, submit them and I'll make an edit where I fix the ones I agree with. I tried to make it as fair as possible but some of these values are hard to scope etc. Don't say in the comments like "Bruins say no" or "Ducks say no", give some ideas on what to change. Also don't think about what the players matter to the team because that kinda ruins the purpose of trading the whole team. (DOES NOT INCLUDE TRADING THE WHOLE PROSPECT POOL)
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Benoit, Simon2850 000 $
Brännström, Erik22 200 000 $
Engvall, Pierre43 500 000 $
Guhle, Brendan2850 000 $
Larsson, Jacob11 500 000 $
Wolff, Nick2850 000 $
Wood, Miles54 000 000 $
Zadina, Filip21 800 000 $
Badini, Jack2800 000 $
Durny, Roman2800 000 $
Elvenes, Lucas2795 000 $
Eriksson Ek, Olle2795 000 $
Mangiapane, Andrew45 500 000 $
Middleton, Jacob42 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Husso, Ville23 500 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Mangiapane, Andrew5 500 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023
Middleton, Jacob2 800 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023
Transactions
1.
ANA
  1. Wolff, Nick [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 6e round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Carrick, Sam
2.
ANA
  1. Stützle, Tim
  2. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2022 1e round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Zegras, Trevor
3.
ANA
  1. Wood, Miles [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor
Détails additionnels:
Devils get a really good prospect for taking on a terrible contract.
NJD
  1. Henrique, Adam
  2. McTavish, Mason
  3. 2022 4e round pick (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Ducks let go of Henrique's contract while getting some decent roster players.
4.
ANA
  1. Engvall, Pierre [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Niemelä, Topi
  4. Kämpf, David
Détails additionnels:
Engvall, Kerfoot, and Kampf are all serviceable and decent players, Kerfoot and Kampf given up for cap reasons, Niemela is to sweeten the pot.
TOR
  1. Gibson, John
  2. 2023 4e round pick (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
A bunch of depth and a decent prospect in return for a star goalie.
5.
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Höglander, Nils
  3. Pearson, Tanner
  4. 2022 1e round pick (VAN)
  5. 2022 4e round pick (VAN)
  6. 2023 2e round pick (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Terry is extremely good and Shattenkirk is decent, so it's going to cost the Canucks a lot.
VAN
  1. Terry, Troy
  2. Shattenkirk, Kevin
Détails additionnels:
Myers is an alright defenseman with a bloated contract, and the Ducks have cap to play with. Pearson is a good bottom six guy, again bad contract, so a bunch of picks and Nils Hoglander make it worth it.
6.
ANA
  1. Nelson, Brock
  2. Beauvillier, Anthony
  3. Mayfield, Scott
  4. 2023 1e round pick (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Trading older guys and Beau with a 1st to beef up the prospect pool with two really good players in Drysdale and Pastujov, and then two alright players in Andersson and Comtois.
NYI
  1. Drysdale, Jamie
  2. Pastujov, Sasha
  3. Andersson, Axel
  4. Comtois, Maxime
Détails additionnels:
Trading a bunch of young players for some proven performers and a first.
7.
ANA
  1. 2022 5e round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Grant, Derek
8.
ANA
  1. 2022 5e round pick (NJD)
  2. 2022 6e round pick (CGY)
They need everything.
BUF
  1. Jones, Max
  2. Mahura, Josh
  3. Stolarz, Anthony
Détails additionnels:
Very little to give up.
9.
ANA
  1. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2022 4e round pick (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Zadina needs a restart, and Detroit has the cap to take on Fowler's contract with the Boston first as a sweetener.
DET
  1. Fowler, Cam
  2. 2022 1e round pick (BOS)
  3. 2023 3e round pick (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Giving up the bad Fowler contract with a late first for a player who could thrive in the system.
10.
ANA
  1. Megna, Jaycob
  2. 2022 5e round pick (BUF)
SJS
  1. Larsson, Jacob
  2. Guhle, Brendan
Détails additionnels:
This could be completely off, but moving these two has been so annoying I'm just gonna go for it and see what suggestions you have.
11.
ANA
  1. 2022 6e round pick (ARI)
Contract swallowing and getting another first
ARI
  1. Silfverberg, Jakob
  2. 2022 1e round pick (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Getting rid of his contract at a high price.
12.
ANA
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. 2022 2e round pick (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Getting rid of Gardiner's contract, though it's not terrible and he is serviceable, so Milano is a decent return for the bottom to middle six.
CAR
  1. Milano, Sonny [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Taking on a contract.
13.
ANA
  1. Seguin, Tyler
  2. 2022 3e round pick (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Pretty bad contract is sold off, but the player isn't terrible so getting Steel and a few good prospects isn't unreasonable.
DAL
  1. Steel, Sam [Droits de RFA]
  2. Perreault, Jacob
  3. Dostal, Lukas
  4. 2022 2e round pick (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Taking on Seguin gives the Ducks a top center who had talent in the past and could see it come back.
14.
ANA
  1. Korpisalo, Joonas
  2. 2023 6e round pick (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Getting Lundestrom and Vaak is a stretch but Korpi has shown potential before.
CBJ
  1. Vaakanainen, Urho [Droits de RFA]
  2. Lundeström, Isac [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
A goalie who has performed in the past holds some decent value.
Rachats de contrats
  • Corey Perry: 2 000 000 $
  • Simon Despres: 0 $
Enfoui
  • John Moore: 1 625 000 $ (2 750 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
Logo de ANA
Logo de OTT
Logo de ANA
Logo de PIT
Logo de DAL
Logo de VAN
Logo de DET
Logo de ANA
Logo de TOR
Logo de LAK
Logo de NJD
Logo de BUF
Logo de NSH
Logo de BOS
Logo de CGY
Logo de ARI
2023
Logo de NYI
Logo de BOS
Logo de COL
Logo de VAN
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de CBJ
2024
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de BOS
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $73 410 834 $0 $2 800 000 $9 089 166 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
4 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de DAL
Seguin, Tyler
9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
Mangiapane, Andrew
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Wood, Miles
4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de OTT
Stützle, Tim
925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de VAN
Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Engvall, Pierre
3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de NYI
Nelson, Brock
6 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de NJD
Sharangovich, Yegor
2 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip
1 800 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Brännström, Erik
2 200 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
Logo de VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Husso, Ville
3 500 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de CAR
Gardiner, Jake
4 050 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de NYI
Mayfield, Scott
1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de CBJ
Korpisalo, Joonas
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Middleton, Jacob
2 800 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de TOR
Niemelä, Topi
856 667 $
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de TOR
Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de SJS
Megna, Jaycob
762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Beauvillier, A.
Seguin, T.
Mangiapane, A.
Stützle, T.
Brännström, E.
Avantage numérique 2
Wood, M.
Nelson, B.
Sharangovich, Y.
Gardiner, J.
Höglander, N.
Infériorité numérique 1
Engvall, P.
Nelson, B.
Brännström, E.
Myers, T.
Infériorité numérique 2
Wood, M.
Kerfoot, A.
Middleton, J.
Mayfield, S.

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15 juin à 14 h 55
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not giving up all of that for gibson. id rather stolarz.

kamph isnt a cap dump btw. he was our best bottom 6 player by far
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Leafs Trade is a hard no, Gibson has not had a good season for awhile and that cap hit is a hard pill to swallow.
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MacTavish is tempting...but Sharangovich is my guy. So would reluctantly pass.
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Hard pass for the Devils. Sharangovich is just scratching the surface and has chemistry with Hughes.
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Carrick has more value, he's was one of the better Bottom 6 players in the league last season.

Henrique's contract isn't as bad as you think. He's still a good player. Not quite worth the money or the term but that deal isn't "terrible".

The Canucks aren't even paying a lot lol. Pearson and Myers don't do anything and don't hold that much value. And no a bunch of picks and Höglander don't make it worth it when the Ducks are giving up their best player in the process.

That Dallas deal is just horrible, sorry for the harsh words. Sequin has been pretty bad and is not worth his contract, ask any Stars fan (@EsoYeezus69). He isn't even close to being worth a Top 5 Goalie prospect in the league, a recent 1st and a 2nd. Especially without retention. And Sequin is not a top line C.

Lundeström and Vaakanainen have more value than that.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
MacTavish is tempting...but Sharangovich is my guy. So would reluctantly pass.


Ouuuuffffff...I realize that this thread is a joke-y way to trade everyone, but I'd absolutely die if the Ducks used MacTavish as compensation for dumping Rico, who had 42 points in 58 games this past season (59 point pace over 82 games), especially to get back a non-tender candidate. I like Sharangovich, but no friggin' thanks tears of joy
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Henrique had 42p in 58gp. 19 goals. doesnt seem like a terrible contract.

Stützle is one year younger and had a better year than Zegras did at his age... even at their current ages Stützle only had 3 less points. seems irresponsible to give away that much for such a minor upgrade (if you wanna call it an upgrade)

McTavish is going to be amazing. i wouldnt trade him.

Drysdale same... hes a great talent. idk if the idea was to just move everyone for a weird value but i would rather see a great 1 for 1 for a player of similar value

i gave up after this so much to evaluate
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again with the caveat that I know that this is a bit: good lord that Isles trade is bad

Nelson (37 goals last year), Mayfield (top 4 D with $1.45M cap hit), #13OA, and Anthony Beauvillier (20 goal guy before his shooting percentage fell off a cliff) for Drysdale (good RHD prospect, nice so far), Pastujov(young winger, not bad, a few years away though), Comtois(mildly concerning), and something called an Axel Andersson?

I think if you weight potential vs. production, the first half of the trades are okay (Nelson/Mayfield for Drysdale/Pastujov), Comtois for Beau is two disappointing LWs changing spots, but that leaves #13 getting traded for Axel Andersson. Whatever value advantage you might give the potential of Drysdale/Pastujov over Nelson/Mayfield's realized production gets absolutely obliterated by this part of the deal,IMO.
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Carrick has more value, he's was one of the better Bottom 6 players in the league last season.

Henrique's contract isn't as bad as you think. He's still a good player. Not quite worth the money or the term but that deal isn't "terrible".

The Canucks aren't even paying a lot lol. Pearson and Myers don't do anything and don't hold that much value. And no a bunch of picks and Höglander don't make it worth it when the Ducks are giving up their best player in the process.

That Dallas deal is just horrible, sorry for the harsh words. Sequin has been pretty bad and is not worth his contract, ask any Stars fan (EsoYeezus69). He isn't even close to being worth a Top 5 Goalie prospect in the league, a recent 1st and a 2nd. Especially without retention. And Sequin is not a top line C.

Lundeström and Vaakanainen have more value than that.


Yeah, Segs doesn’t really have the best of value rn. He hasn’t played too well plus he has a massive contract.
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Stuetzle > Zegras
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Very easy no from Ottawa
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Stars take that and run
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If it was Stutzle for Zegras straight up swap, you might have something.

Adding Brannstrom and the 7th overall pick is a massive overpayment.
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VAN is not moving a 1st round pick.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
again with the caveat that I know that this is a bit: good lord that Isles trade is bad

Nelson (37 goals last year), Mayfield (top 4 D with $1.45M cap hit), #13OA, and Anthony Beauvillier (20 goal guy before his shooting percentage fell off a cliff) for Drysdale (good RHD prospect, nice so far), Pastujov(young winger, not bad, a few years away though), Comtois(mildly concerning), and something called an Axel Andersson?

I think if you weight potential vs. production, the first half of the trades are okay (Nelson/Mayfield for Drysdale/Pastujov), Comtois for Beau is two disappointing LWs changing spots, but that leaves #13 getting traded for Axel Andersson. Whatever value advantage you might give the potential of Drysdale/Pastujov over Nelson/Mayfield's realized production gets absolutely obliterated by this part of the deal,IMO.


Alright so say the 1st gets removed, is that a fair deal in your opinion?
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If it was Stutzle for Zegras straight up swap, you might have something.

Adding Brannstrom and the 7th overall pick is a massive overpayment.


Okay that's fair, I was more thinking Zegras just provides so much value on and off the ice, and he is one of the most innovative players in the league, so instead of adding Brannstrom and the 7th oa to the deal, what would you suggest adding with Stutzle?
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Henrique had 42p in 58gp. 19 goals. doesnt seem like a terrible contract.

Stützle is one year younger and had a better year than Zegras did at his age... even at their current ages Stützle only had 3 less points. seems irresponsible to give away that much for such a minor upgrade (if you wanna call it an upgrade)

McTavish is going to be amazing. i wouldnt trade him.

Drysdale same... hes a great talent. idk if the idea was to just move everyone for a weird value but i would rather see a great 1 for 1 for a player of similar value

i gave up after this so much to evaluate


Totally understand lol, just going to ask you a few questions though. The Stutzle for Zegras one I have addressed with someone else, but when you said you wouldn't trade McTavish, neither would I. This is a trading the whole team thing though, and he was considered on the roster, so I have to trade him. Is there any trade involving McTavish you like better? Also what do you suggest for Drysdale?
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Ouuuuffffff...I realize that this thread is a joke-y way to trade everyone, but I'd absolutely die if the Ducks used MacTavish as compensation for dumping Rico, who had 42 points in 58 games this past season (59 point pace over 82 games), especially to get back a non-tender candidate. I like Sharangovich, but no friggin' thanks tears of joy


It's not really a joke thread, I genuinely did try, but I wasn't really sure of all the values of players. What do you think a better deal for McTavish or Henrique would go? I'm going to make an edit using people's suggestions so I would love to hear yours.
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Carrick has more value, he's was one of the better Bottom 6 players in the league last season.

Henrique's contract isn't as bad as you think. He's still a good player. Not quite worth the money or the term but that deal isn't "terrible".

The Canucks aren't even paying a lot lol. Pearson and Myers don't do anything and don't hold that much value. And no a bunch of picks and Höglander don't make it worth it when the Ducks are giving up their best player in the process.

That Dallas deal is just horrible, sorry for the harsh words. Sequin has been pretty bad and is not worth his contract, ask any Stars fan (EsoYeezus69). He isn't even close to being worth a Top 5 Goalie prospect in the league, a recent 1st and a 2nd. Especially without retention. And Sequin is not a top line C.

Lundeström and Vaakanainen have more value than that.


Alright, could I hear some suggestions from you? What do you suggest for Carrick, Lundestrom, Vaak, Henrique, Shattenkirk, and Terry? I still think taking on the Seguin contract would be good for Anaheim, I just want to know what a better price would be.
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Okay that's fair, I was more thinking Zegras just provides so much value on and off the ice, and he is one of the most innovative players in the league, so instead of adding Brannstrom and the 7th oa to the deal, what would you suggest adding with Stutzle?


Nothing.

The same things you said about Zegras can be said about Stutzle as well.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Nothing.

The same things you said about Zegras can be said about Stutzle as well.


You know, that's fair. After loving Stutzle's play in his first season, I kinda forgot to pay attention to Stutzle. Thanks for the help, I'll fix it in the second version of this I do for the Ducks using everyone's suggestions.
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Quoting: Neon75
Totally understand lol, just going to ask you a few questions though. The Stutzle for Zegras one I have addressed with someone else, but when you said you wouldn't trade McTavish, neither would I. This is a trading the whole team thing though, and he was considered on the roster, so I have to trade him. Is there any trade involving McTavish you like better? Also what do you suggest for Drysdale?

Quoting: Neon75
Totally understand lol, just going to ask you a few questions though. The Stutzle for Zegras one I have addressed with someone else, but when you said you wouldn't trade McTavish, neither would I. This is a trading the whole team thing though, and he was considered on the roster, so I have to trade him. Is there any trade involving McTavish you like better? Also what do you suggest for Drysdale?


McTavish was a 3oa pick... draft wasnt that strong but that doesnt mean his value has lowered. i would aim high bc i think hes got a ton of potential. i believe him and Beniers have similar ceilings. that being said i would try for Beniers Johnson (kent) Luke hughes if you are looking for D. i think TSN has him as #7 ranked prospect as of April.

Drysdale is amazing, i would trade him for like a Sanderson or Power.. i wouldnt settle for less
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
McTavish was a 3oa pick... draft wasnt that strong but that doesnt mean his value has lowered. i would aim high bc i think hes got a ton of potential. i believe him and Beniers have similar ceilings. that being said i would try for Beniers Johnson (kent) Luke hughes if you are looking for D. i think TSN has him as #7 ranked prospect as of April.

Drysdale is amazing, i would trade him for like a Sanderson or Power.. i wouldnt settle for less


Thanks for the input!
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Quoting: sensonfire
Nothing.

The same things you said about Zegras can be said about Stutzle as well.


Z has 2007 times as much value as Stuzle, simply because of the ‘07 Cup win over the Sens.

Why? My understanding is that Timmy’s mother ran into Ray Emery’s (RIP) hummer, causing him to be real, real bad in the final game.
 
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