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Liljegren OS

Créé par: Stevierebz
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2022
Publié: 5 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Description
I wish offer sheets weren’t so taboo, they could really add a dynamic to the resign phase.

Anyways; who would be for this OS? too much of an overpayment? Would Tor be able to match?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 200 000 $
31 750 000 $
21 050 000 $
11 050 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Liljegren, Timothy4 200 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023
Transactions
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  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 5e (DET)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2583 500 000 $64 615 556 $0 $4 707 500 $18 884 444 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Bertuzzi, Tyler
2 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Raymond, Lucas
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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Vrána, Jakub
2 625 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Veleno, Joseph
894 167 $
C
RFA - 1
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Zadina, Filip
1 750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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Rasmussen, Michael
1 460 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Suter, Pius
3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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Berggren, Jonatan
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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Andreasson, Pontus
842 500 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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Stephens, Mitchell
1 050 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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Sundqvist, Oskar
2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Martinez, Alec
5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Seider, Moritz
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Nedeljkovic, Alex
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Edvinsson, Simon
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Liljegren, Timothy
4 200 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Hellberg, Magnus
1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Walman, Jake
1 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Hronek, Filip
4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Lindström, Gustav
850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Fabbri, Robby
4 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
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Smith, Givani
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Erne, Adam
2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Oesterle, Jordan
1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Kampfer, Steven
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 29
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I could see Detroit giving liljegran like 1 year 5-6 million. Just like the KK offersheet.
5 juin 2022 à 15 h 29
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No thanks we need LD help not RD help, Would rather OS Rasmus Sandin instead.
5 juin 2022 à 15 h 31
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Offer sheets are taboo because you inherently need to overpay the player in order to make them successful. In this case, giving a defenseman who has yet to play a complete NHL season, and the time he did spend playing he was on the 3rd pair, who still thinks the game a bit too slowly and has trouble covering his man in front of the net. People are high on Liljegren because his underlying numbers look good and Toronto media hypes him up but he's far from a sure bet to be able to excel in a bigger role and earn this kind of money.
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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 38
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
No thanks we need LD help not RD help, Would rather OS Rasmus Sandin instead.

I disagree; in the short term, yes, we need LD. But, in the long term, ie. 2+ years out, we should have Edvinsson, Wallinder, and Johansson manning the Left while after Seider, there’s only Hronek and Lindstrom. I’m not sold that either of them can be an above average second pairing.

Either way, that’s just my preference, this OS can go for either Lil or Sandin.
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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: Hullsy09
I could see Detroit giving liljegran like 1 year 5-6 million. Just like the KK offersheet.

Anything over 4.2 compensates a 1st rd pick and I don’t think any of these RFAs are worth it in a Conner Bedard draft year
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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 42
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Anything over 4.2 compensates a 1st rd pick and I don’t think any of these RFAs are worth it in a Conner Bedard draft year


Forgot about that lol, you are completely right
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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 49
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Quoting: Stevierebz
I disagree; in the short term, yes, we need LD. But, in the long term, ie. 2+ years out, we should have Edvinsson, Wallinder, and Johansson manning the Left while after Seider, there’s only Hronek and Lindstrom. I’m not sold that either of them can be an above average second pairing.

Either way, that’s just my preference, this OS can go for either Lil or Sandin.


FWIW William Wallinder preference is the right side, And has been playing RD so he's probably going to be replacing one of Hronek or Lindstrom in the next 2 years or so.
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5 juin 2022 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
FWIW William Wallinder preference is the right side, And has been playing RD so he's probably going to be replacing one of Hronek or Lindstrom in the next 2 years or so.

Good to know.
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5 juin 2022 à 16 h 28
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By the offer sheet rules, I don't think Liljregrn or Sandin or offer eligible. They haven't played 80 NHL games in the previous two seasons.
Expiring ELCs do not signify eligibility for offer sheets.
5 juin 2022 à 18 h 16
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By the offer sheet rules, I don't think Liljregrn or Sandin or offer eligible. They haven't played 80 NHL games in the previous two seasons.
Expiring ELCs do not signify eligibility for offer sheets.


Both Sandin and Liljregrn meet the RFA requirements and are eligible for offer sheets but have no arb rights. They are not 10.2c RFAs due to having more than 3 years of professional experience. Because they had contract slides (1 for Sandin, 2 for Liljregrn), they still did accumulate professional years (both of them in the AHL).
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5 juin 2022 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: Stevierebz
I disagree; in the short term, yes, we need LD. But, in the long term, ie. 2+ years out, we should have Edvinsson, Wallinder, and Johansson manning the Left while after Seider, there’s only Hronek and Lindstrom. I’m not sold that either of them can be an above average second pairing.

Either way, that’s just my preference, this OS can go for either Lil or Sandin.


Couldn't agree more.
5 juin 2022 à 19 h 41
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
FWIW William Wallinder preference is the right side, And has been playing RD so he's probably going to be replacing one of Hronek or Lindstrom in the next 2 years or so.


I didn't know that...thanks for pointing that out. Going back and re-watching some of his highlights it seems likes he has played mostly on the left side this past year with Rogle. It would nice to have the versatility to be comfortable on both sides.
 
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