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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2022
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GIve me feedback on what you think is not realistic
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Holl, Justin
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I chose the Avs incase they need a replacement for Manson but it could be any team in need of cheap RD/PK help
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LAK
  1. Muzzin, Jake
Détails additionnels:
The Kings are Clogged at RD and in need of LD help. LA is the only place Muzzin would waive his NTC for
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Kokkonen, Mikko
  2. Mrázek, Petr
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Similar to the Ghost trade from last year with Philly and the Coyotes. A player with past strong results that struggled this year at around 4 million$. BUF also has a bunch of cap and needs a goalie. I also don't see the Sabres going after any of the UFA´s
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TOR
  1. Stolarz, Anthony
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
Kerfoots coming off a Career year with 51 points with no PP time plays all 3 forward positions and is a great pker. Leafs get a good backup
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 34
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Muzzin has not indicated anywhere he will waive to LA. Also the Kings had better performance this season playing Edler (at a cheaper cap hit) than Muzzin. Let's also include the fact that Matt Roy was able to take over Doughty's role as RD1 to take the Oilers to 7 games. This trade is awful, if you want to move Muzzin you need to retain or buy him out, because LA has better options for free at this point.

Mrázek holds a negative value at this point.

Also, that is way too little for Campbell, if the Leafs aren't ready to see him as his #1 let him go somewhere else and get paid.
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 34
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yeah nice try, remove Dostal and I'm still not making the trade Kerfoot for a 3rd
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 39
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Yotes got a 2nd for ghost who is far more useful than mrazek. Not sure where you get your infor on the sabres not going after UFA's such as husso or campbell. That coupled with helping your division rival to get them out of cap trouble would be quite dumb unless the price is a lot higher than a 3rd and a junk prospect
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 43
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I think the Devils match that, they are not letting Wood walk out the door for free.
Sabres are not going to do the leafs any favors ant take on Mrázek for anything less than a second.
The most the Leafs will get for Holl is a 6th.
I don't think Dostal is available, and you definitely won't get him for a one year rental (at least not from a team who prob wont make the playoffs next season).
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 44
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Now that you've put yourself in the Leafs shoes, jump to the other side...
-COL: Meh, why not.
-LAK: Why get that much older/more expensive? Especially when you know the Leafs have cap issues and that Muzz has a full NTC. If the Leafs want to move him that bad, and you're really the only realistic destination, I wouldn't give up a used hankie. Not to say that without the full NTC Muzzin wouldn't have value (I'm sure he would have a bit), but yeah...not a lot of free favours get done in the NHL.
-Buffalo: Meh...I personally wouldn't be doing a divisional rival a favour like this. Make 'em buy him out. As for the "past strong results", Mrazek has had a total span of 52 games over the past 6 years that he's been above league average.
-Anaheim: Since when do non-playoff teams trade their top goaltending prospect and a pick for a rental 3rd liner? Kerfoot is solid, but yeah, that makes zero sense.

Edit: Missed the Miles Wood part-*If* the Devils qualify Wood, it would be slightly below $3.5 mil, which would mean that offering him $1.5 would be laughable. That being said, he's more than likely a non-tender candidate.
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 48
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yeah nice try, remove Dostal and I'm still not making the trade Kerfoot for a 3rd


it was meant to be stolarz lol and that's fine if you don't throw in a 3rd but Kerfoot for stolarz is fine
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30 mai 2022 à 12 h 54
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I think the Devils match that, they are not letting Wood walk out the door for free.
Sabres are not going to do the leafs any favors ant take on Mrázek for anything less than a second.
The most the Leafs will get for Holl is a 6th.
I don't think Dostal is available, and you definitely won't get him for a one year rental (at least not from a team who prob wont make the playoffs next season).


- I don't think the Devils qualify wood. Dubas said they would be targeting players coming off injury/down year
- Kokkonen and a third is the same value as a second and if you want to add like a 5th 6th fine.
- Lol Holl is a average D man that kills penaltys effectively you gotta be trolling
-Was meant to be stolarz
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 2
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Yotes got a 2nd for ghost who is far more useful than mrazek. Not sure where you get your infor on the sabres not going after UFA's such as husso or campbell. That coupled with helping your division rival to get them out of cap trouble would be quite dumb unless the price is a lot higher than a 3rd and a junk prospect


- First off nobody thought Ghost would do that well in ARI after having a bad year in Philly stop using 2020 vision on the past.
- I said I don't see them Signing a UFA like that instead of getting assets for a cap dump.
- Do Sabres fans consider the Leafs a rival lol
- Kokkonen is not a junk prospect lmao and him and a 3rd is basically a second
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 9
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Muzzin has not indicated anywhere he will waive to LA. Also the Kings had better performance this season playing Edler (at a cheaper cap hit) than Muzzin. Let's also include the fact that Matt Roy was able to take over Doughty's role as RD1 to take the Oilers to 7 games. This trade is awful, if you want to move Muzzin you need to retain or buy him out, because LA has better options for free at this point.

Mrázek holds a negative value at this point.

- The Athletic reported that Muzzin could potentially could be moved back to LA

- If you think Edler is better than Muzzin find god. And even if he was Muzzin is still solid and was great in R1

- You could replace Matt Roy with someone like Sean Walker

- Yes I know that Mrazek holds negative value that's why I added a good prospect and a 3rd that is Similar Value to a second

Also, that is way too little for Campbell, if the Leafs aren't ready to see him as his #1 let him go somewhere else and get paid.
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 10
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Also the term and potential to get endorsements in Toronto could help Soup stay. Maybe that's hopeful thinking but you could also give him a 4x4
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 17
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it was meant to be stolarz lol and that's fine if you don't throw in a 3rd but Kerfoot for stolarz is fine


No it is not fine. That isn’t happening either
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: Lenny7
Now that you've put yourself in the Leafs shoes, jump to the other side...
-COL: Meh, why not.
-LAK: Why get that much older/more expensive? Especially when you know the Leafs have cap issues and that Muzz has a full NTC. If the Leafs want to move him that bad, and you're really the only realistic destination, I wouldn't give up a used hankie. Not to say that without the full NTC Muzzin wouldn't have value (I'm sure he would have a bit), but yeah...not a lot of free favours get done in the NHL.
-Buffalo: Meh...I personally wouldn't be doing a divisional rival a favour like this. Make 'em buy him out. As for the "past strong results", Mrazek has had a total span of 52 games over the past 6 years that he's been above league average.
-Anaheim: Since when do non-playoff teams trade their top goaltending prospect and a pick for a rental 3rd liner? Kerfoot is solid, but yeah, that makes zero sense.

Edit: Missed the Miles Wood part-*If* the Devils qualify Wood, it would be slightly below $3.5 mil, which would mean that offering him $1.5 would be laughable. That being said, he's more than likely a non-tender candidate.


- LA gets help on the Left side that already has chemistry with their best D man
- Leafs Pay a good prospect and a third to get rid of Mrazek.
- It was meant to be stolarz not dostal lol
- I don't think the Devils qualify wood and 1.5 is a fair price for him
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 20
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No it is not fine. That isn’t happening either


didn't know you were the GM lil bro
30 mai 2022 à 13 h 41
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No Kings beat writer believes there is any value to any Muzzin to LA trades. He would need to waive, and the Kings (who have capspace) are still in on Chychrun, Forsberg, and possibly Gaudreau.

You think Muzzin is leagues better than Edler, here are their stats for this last season, side by side:

Edler: 41GP, 3G, 19P, +18, 18:28 ATOI, 52.1 Corsi% / 54.4% Fenwick
Muzzin: 47 GP, 3 G, 14P, -6, 20:44 ATOI, 48.1% Corsi / 47.9 % Fenwick

You either need to admit that Muzzin's concussions really messed him up last season or that he is losing a step. Either way you don't need to explain to us who Muzzin is, and we don't need to see much to understand that he has lost a step.
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30 mai 2022 à 13 h 42
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- LA gets help on the Left side that already has chemistry with their best D man
- Leafs Pay a good prospect and a third to get rid of Mrazek.
- It was meant to be stolarz not dostal lol
- I don't think the Devils qualify wood and 1.5 is a fair price for him


-Yeah, but they can probably do it cheaper...I get the whole "yeah he already played in LA" thing, but Muzz has a full NTC, and playing for his home town team right now.
-I wouldn't really go crazy with Kokkonen being a "good prospect", but that's beside the point...Just seems like a nice favor for the Sabres to do for a division rival.
-I don't know...I just don't see the Ducks moving any sort of futures for rentals at this point. I mean, Kerfoot is absolutely worth it to a contender, but there's no real reason for the Ducks to do it.
-Yeah, I guess it's just the offersheet part there...I could absolutely see him signing for something like that, but he'll be non-tendered first.
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30 mai 2022 à 13 h 43
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- LA gets help on the Left side that already has chemistry with their best D man
- Leafs Pay a good prospect and a third to get rid of Mrazek.
- It was meant to be stolarz not dostal lol
- I don't think the Devils qualify wood and 1.5 is a fair price for him


Muzzin and Doughty have never played a single season as primary partners, their play styles don't actually match up well.
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30 mai 2022 à 13 h 49
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No Kings beat writer believes there is any value to any Muzzin to LA trades. He would need to waive, and the Kings (who have capspace) are still in on Chychrun, Forsberg, and possibly Gaudreau.

You think Muzzin is leagues better than Edler, here are their stats for this last season, side by side:

Edler: 41GP, 3G, 19P, +18, 18:28 ATOI, 52.1 Corsi% / 54.4% Fenwick
Muzzin: 47 GP, 3 G, 14P, -6, 30:44 ATOI, 48.1% Corsi / 47.9 % Fenwick

You either need to admit that Muzzin's concussions really messed him up last season or that he is losing a step. Either way you don't need to explain to us who Muzzin is, and we don't need to see much to understand that he has lost a step.


In fairness here, Muzzin's even strength numbers are 52.0%/51.6%, while starting 46.1% of his shifts in the offensive-zone, whereas Edler is 56.0%/58.3% while starting 54% of his shifts in the ozone. Hard to compare them when one played as a defensive d-man and the other was in a more protected role (which is interesting given that Edler has been primarily a shut-down guy throughout his career).

Not saying that Muzzin>Edler or Edler>Muzzin, just pointing out that simply using possession numbers without any background info doesn't really do 'er, nor does +/-, which is possibly the worst "stat" in hockey".
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30 mai 2022 à 13 h 57
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- First off nobody thought Ghost would do that well in ARI after having a bad year in Philly stop using 2020 vision on the past.
- I said I don't see them Signing a UFA like that instead of getting assets for a cap dump.
- Do Sabres fans consider the Leafs a rival lol
- Kokkonen is not a junk prospect lmao and him and a 3rd is basically a second


Yeah I would say they are a rival yes. Sabres have won a round more recently and the sabres went 3-1 against them this season. Ghost season in philly was better than mrazeks this year. Kokkonen is a left shot d where sabres currently have dahlin power samuelsson johnson etc all way better than him. So no not worth it, be better to offersheet lily or sandin for the sabres and put toronto in a worse spot than they already are. Matthews and ghost will be alright on the yotes PP here soon enough
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30 mai 2022 à 13 h 59
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In fairness here, Muzzin's even strength numbers are 52.0%/51.6%, while starting 46.1% of his shifts in the offensive-zone, whereas Edler is 56.0%/58.3% while starting 54% of his shifts in the ozone. Hard to compare them when one played as a defensive d-man and the other was in a more protected role (which is interesting given that Edler has been primarily a shut-down guy throughout his career).

Not saying that Muzzin>Edler or Edler>Muzzin, just pointing out that simply using possession numbers without any background info doesn't really do 'er, nor does +/-, which is possibly the worst "stat" in hockey".


Fair point, also Edler's point share can be inflated as the Kings were awful on the PK which is not counted. The more compelling point is viewing stats/advanced stats for Muzzin over the past 3-5 years to see if he is losing a step, while Edler's style seems to work with his age. As far as value for contract, I'd say Edler holds more value if he takes another $2.5M to $3.5M contract over Muzzin, especially considering Muzzin has suffered multiple concussions and injury history.

Edler had to play a lot of roles this season, every single one of our starting defensemen had suffered multi-game injuries or had to be in COVID protocol. It was pairing him with Roy that made him actually able to play an offensive game as both are stay-at-home shut down types, which the Kings have coveted since 2010 to balance out their youth. In honesty, Roy and Muzzin would be good partners, but Edler could be had at a discount and if paired with Clarke or Durzi would be a slam dunk pairing. If somehow the Kings also got Chychrun to play with Roy, they would have a better and younger 2nd pair. It's a pipe dream, but the Kings do probably have the assets to get a Chychrun trade done.
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30 mai 2022 à 16 h 0
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Sabres aren’t gonna want Mrazek, no one will
You’ll have to give up at least a 2nd to get someone to take him, maybe even a 1st- he was that bad last year
30 mai 2022 à 16 h 58
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Sabres aren’t gonna want Mrazek, no one will
You’ll have to give up at least a 2nd to get someone to take him, maybe even a 1st- he was that bad last year


Anytime the Leafs have to move a contract they have to give up heaven and earth lmaoo
30 mai 2022 à 17 h 0
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Sabres aren’t gonna want Mrazek, no one will
You’ll have to give up at least a 2nd to get someone to take him, maybe even a 1st- he was that bad last year


Bro it´s already been reported that teams have interest in him they just want a sweetener to get it done
30 mai 2022 à 17 h 3
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Yeah I would say they are a rival yes. Sabres have won a round more recently and the sabres went 3-1 against them this season. Ghost season in philly was better than mrazeks this year. Kokkonen is a left shot d where sabres currently have dahlin power samuelsson johnson etc all way better than him. So no not worth it, be better to offersheet lily or sandin for the sabres and put toronto in a worse spot than they already are. Matthews and ghost will be alright on the yotes PP here soon enough


How are you gonna compare a D mans season to a Goalie lmao. And Leaf fans never think of the Sabres btw. You´re like our annoying little step bro
30 mai 2022 à 17 h 9
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How are you gonna compare a D mans season to a Goalie lmao. And Leaf fans never think of the Sabres btw. You´re like our annoying little step bro


Because one was bad and the other was so bad that he got sent to new mexico for the playoff run that they lost anyways. and thats cool, typically the younger brothers always end up being better anyways. Also the leafs should have their mind on a lot more than the sabres, like winning a round.
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Because one was bad and the other was so bad that he got sent to new mexico for the playoff run that they lost anyways. and thats cool, typically the younger brothers always end up being better anyways. Also the leafs should have their mind on a lot more than the sabres, like winning a round.


Sabres are known for their playoff success right?
 
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