Sooo you haven’t really been keeping up with the Jake debrusk situation, huh?

I think the price is a first now, and even then I’m not sure they take it.

Ok that's a little excessive. Aside from that, Nucks fan base would hate you. Lucic is not welcome here

Doesnt fix Calgary's cap, they would still have to move out Monahan here. In which case I would much rather have Lucic for 1 year than Pearson for 2

Is it excessive?

If so, why?

Idea here is they don’t re-sign gudbranson and replace him with Poolman. So they save the 2.75 million difference in cap between Poolman and lucic plus whatever gudbranson would have re-signed for.

the, “idea,” here is to rob everyone blind.

How is Poolman for Lucic robbing the flames blind? How is Garland for durxi robbing the kings blind? This a joke?

Man you’re the most negative person this site and you’re evaluation of players is regularly off base. Debrusk worth a first? Based on what? Pure speculation? A 3rd is obviously lowballing but given the rumours leading up to the trade deadline a low ball offer makes sense.

If you don’t like the debrusk trade, just ignore it. Rumour 1 month ago was he asked out and bruins couldn’t find a partner. To me that means his value is low. All I needed for the AGM was a middle 6 winger and I had about $4 million left to spend, so instead of signing a UFA I aquired Debrusk. If it’s not fair, don’t worry about it

DeBrusk is at least a first round pick. Cost controlled for multiple seasons. His play has been elite since he's been given top line duties.

Debrusk has played 30 games in 2022. He has 17 goals. Thats a 46 per 82 pace. A 25 year old doing that isn’t moved for less than a first.

That also wasn’t the rumor. You made that up.

The point of this site isn’t to ignore things.

Weren’t you the guy who told me Quinn Hughes was only a third pairing d man that’s only good attribute was the powerplay? It’s hard to take you seriously when you say things like that

In a way. I said at 5 on 5 hughes is best suited playing sheltered third pair matchups. I stand by that 100%. Hes a turnstile.

Not sure what that has to do with Jake debrusk.

I would much rather sign Gudbranson to a multi year deal and that wont be expensive. He's having a career year and really thrives in Sutter's system on the 3rd pair.

The point is they only save 2M from the swap (not 2.75M) and that doesn't really help them.

*Edit did you change the trade from Pearson to Poolman? If so that is an ever easier no as Poolman's contract is pretty bad

For most of 2021 Debrusk was worth no more than a 3rd.

When they did not move him at the deadline i figured they would move him at the draft for a pick in the 35-50 range as he had elevated his play some.

The way he’s playing right now that pick will have to be in the 20-35 range with another piece added. My guess is they will try like hell to get him to stay first though.

Vancouver's first is roughly 15th overall, and we haven't picked in the first round for over 2 years. However that is slightly irrelevant. I interpret that you mean that DeBrusk is worth a pick that is in the top 32 OA. Some recent players that have been traded to a value SIMILAR to a 1st round pick include Sam Reinhart, Brady Skjei, Ben Chiarot 50% retained, Christian Dvorak, Tyler Toffoli, and Darcy Kuemper, the latter 3 receiving a considerable additional pieces. This is naturally a very diverse field of values. DeBrusk has been inconsistent. If I was a GM, I wouldn't pay a pick higher than 30th overall. A Canucks 2nd round pick, maybe with a 5th round pick added.

And why would the bruins move him for a 2nd rounder? Makes no sense.

I haven’t paid attention to the talk around him since the deadline so I didn’t realize that he re-established himself. I saw the goals in highlights and such and watched a couple games, but I didn’t realize that he had built is value back up in the eyes of management and the league.

Canucks will likely not have the picks required to make it work. Maybe next years 2nd and this years 3rd? To make up for the one year delay? At that point though imo not worth it for vancouver

Well if they are planning to get some big name UFAs they might, or just to restock the prospect pool slightly. If you got a pick that was, say, 28th overall, would you accept? Not that the Canucks have such a pick

No. Moving debrusk for a draft pick doesn’t make sense anymore.

if lehkonen gets a top prospect and a pick, i cant see debrusk who is a much better player with a higher ceiling going for less. 2 year extension at very reasonable cap hit. the debrusk slander because of one calendar year bad year is disgusting. everyone sees the covid year and then the rough start to this year and automatically assumes he sucks. here are his splits this year:

first 45 games with ridiculously inconsistent lines: 9 goals 8 assists 17 points
this is all since feb 23rd... next 22 games with debrusk on top line in a consistent role: 13 goals 6 assists 19 points

still not getting real pp time. so im sorry but since he was given real minutes with real players, not lined up with the likes of our 4th liners like foligno who sucks, steen who is in the ahl, nosek who is a 4th liner etc. hes scoring at almost a ppg pace.

Sweeney didnt move debrusk at the deadline because he knew he wasnt getting a quality player in a deal during the year. its harder to move money in/money out and be able to replace the player. Boston is contending and going for it. if they were getting deals of futures at the deadline that doesnt help the team now. you can take futures in the offseason and flip them but they made it clear they werent selling at the deadline.

Take allllll that into consideration and now tell me how the bruins move him for less than lehkonen? no, absolutely no chance. it will take a decent package to get debrusk. trade request or not.

I didn't realize you guys value DeBrusk so highly. If the Bruin's management has similar mindsets, I think we will see Debrusk thrive in Boston, whether on their 4h line or on their 2nd.

Like i said, he’s scored at a 46 goal pace in 2022. Of course he’s valued highly.

He is thriving. On the 1st line. For the last 3 months.

Take him out of that role and it would not be a good scenario.

Like I said above, if they can bury the hatchet and get him to stay he won’t be moved. Hard to get 25 goal production in free agency for 4m. Even when you do if it’s from a guy exiting his prime.

If he still wants out I think they will look for a pick at the draft in the 20-40 range with a second piece depending on where the pick is.

I agree. The Canucks 15th OA pick is unreasonable, and a 3rd is wayy to unreasonablely low

If he still wants out, Don Sweeney will continue to do what he’s done all along: not care. If the bruins can get something they think makes the team better, they will. If not, debrusk stays, whether he wants to or not.