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Rebuilt Habs 2023-24

Créé par: jonh514
Date de création initiale: 9 avr. 2022
Publié: 9 avr. 2022
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Habs accept a lesser offer on Petry to move on and make room for new blood at the Draft 2022
Habs pay a few picks to entice an Armia salary dump at the Draft 2022
Habs Draft Shane Wright at the Draft 2022
Habs trade Poehling at the Draft 2022 (Make room for Shane Wright)
Habs sign Letang in the offseason 2022
Habs trade Allen at the Trade Deadline 2023 (Promote Primeau)
Habs trade Edmundson at the Trade Deadline 2023 (Promote Guhle)
Habs trade Hoffman at the Trade Deadline 2023 (Promote Harvey-Pinard/Heineman)
Habs sign Caufield to a comparable to Suzuki contract in the offseason 2023
Habs invest in youth movement between Romanov, Barron, Harris, Guhle, Mailloux, Roy, Kidney, Heineman, Harvey-Pinard, Ylonen
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Dobes, Jakub2850 000 $
Farrell, Sean2850 000 $
Kidney, Riley3925 000 $
Mailloux, Logan3925 000 $
Simoneau, Xavier2775 000 $
Smilanic, Ty2775 000 $
Sobolev, Daniil3775 000 $
Stapley, Brett3775 000 $
Biondi, Blake2775 000 $
Tuch, Luke2775 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Brook, Josh21 000 000 $
Caufield, Cole88 000 000 $
Harris, Jordan32 500 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël31 000 000 $
Pitlick, Rem32 500 000 $
Primeau, Cayden31 500 000 $
Romanov, Alexander43 000 000 $
Schueneman, Corey31 750 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse31 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Letang, Kris58 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 2e round pick (DAL)
Habs ultimately agree to a lower offer to start fresh and get some cap relief
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff
Détails additionnels:
Dallas gets a cheap replacement for Klingberg
2.
MTL
  1. 2023 2e round pick (PIT)
Habs dump Hoffman salary to make room for youth
PIT
  1. Hoffman, Mike
Détails additionnels:
Trade Deadline 2023 - Pens still trying to win with Crosby/Malkin
3.
MTL
  1. 2023 1e round pick (STL)
  2. 2024 2e round pick (STL)
Comparable return to Chiarot trade. Can swap 2nd round pick for prospect
STL
  1. Edmundson, Joel
Détails additionnels:
Trade Deadline 2023 - Blues get big body who plays their style of game for a cup run. Also get a player with 1 year term left
4.
MTL
  1. 2022 2e round pick (ARI)
Yotes get a young center at a low cost who is NHL-ready
ARI
  1. Poehling, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Draft 2022 - Making room for Shane Wright
5.
MTL
    Habs dump salary on a player who has not lived up to expectations.
    CBJ
    1. Armia, Joel
    2. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
    3. 2022 4e round pick (TBL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Columbus takes a flyer on a player they've scouted and had interest in for a few years. Can a fresh start get him back to the player he was in the playoffs last year?

    Changed from 3rd & 4th to 2nd & 4th cause as has been pointed out, the Habs are going to have to pay BIG to dump his full contract.
    Rachats de contrats
    • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2183 500 000 $74 575 833 $0 $752 500 $8 924 167 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Caufield, Cole
    8 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
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    Suzuki, Nick
    7 875 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
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    Anderson, Josh
    5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Pitlick, Rem
    2 500 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    Dvorak, Christian
    4 450 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Roy, Joshua
    856 667 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
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    Heineman, Emil
    897 500 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    Wright, Shane
    925 000 $
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    Gallagher, Brendan
    6 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
    1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
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    Evans, Jake
    1 700 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    Ylönen, Jesse
    1 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Romanov, Alexander
    3 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Letang, Kris
    8 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Price, Carey
    10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Harris, Jordan
    2 500 000 $
    DG
    RFA
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    Barron, Justin
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
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    Primeau, Cayden
    1 500 000 $
    G
    RFA - 2
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    Guhle, Kaiden
    863 333 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    Savard, David
    3 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
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    Schueneman, Corey
    1 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Weber, Shea
    7 857 143 $
    DD
    UFA - 3

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    9 avr. à 16 h 45
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    Welcome Simon Nemec
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    I love Habs fans overvaluing players
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    Thanks for the response. Who am I overvaluing?
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    Thanks for the response. Who am I overvaluing?


    Just like every other fanbase lol
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    Don't think the blues make that trade. I think the trade their first but for a different player. They traded Edmundson and I don't think they trade back for him.
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    The majority of Armia’s contract is still owed to him, can’t see Columbus taking him with almost 11.5 mil still owed to Armia over 3 years, and one year at 4.8.
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    So you think a team will pay to take on your dump. You wanna dump Hoffman then send a 1st to the pens.
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    So you think a team will pay to take on your dump. You wanna dump Hoffman then send a 1st to the pens.


    I like Hoffman. I think he's a good player and not at all overpaid at 4.5M - Some team will take him on for his offensive instincts, if not the Pens. He CAN score 30 goals playing with a player like Crosby or Malkin. If not to offload the salary, the habs would definitely keep him. It just so happens that our old GM overpaid a bunch of players it's nearly impossible to get rid of, like Armia, Gallagher, Drouin and we need to trade the players we CAN like Hoffman & Edmundson.
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    Modifié 9 avr. à 18 h 41
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    The majority of Armia’s contract is still owed to him, can’t see Columbus taking him with almost 11.5 mil still owed to Armia over 3 years, and one year at 4.8.


    I think that's fair, but Jarmo Kekäläinen has come to town a number of times to scout him personally. I bet a 2nd round pick gets it done! - FYI I modified the trade to a 2nd & a 4th based on your comment!
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    Quoting: Tennisman142
    Don't think the blues make that trade. I think the trade their first but for a different player. They traded Edmundson and I don't think they trade back for him.


    Fair point. But he's not the same player he was back then. He's matured to the point that he's arguably a better Defensemen than Chiarot and the Blues were in on that until the very end. Plus he's got term at a cap-friendly number of $3.5 million. I could see it happen. Unless the Habs overshoot all expectations next season and make the playoffs, he's definitely getting traded for a Chiarot/Savard-like return at the 2023 trade deadline.
    9 avr. à 19 h 2
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    make the first a second or third
    edmundson didnt fit perfect here DA would be reluctant to give up alot for the risk i think
    i do like joel tho
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    Quoting: xercuses
    make the first a second or third
    edmundson didnt fit perfect here DA would be reluctant to give up alot for the risk i think
    i do like joel tho


    I totally get your point. But we've seen 2 years in a row what the market is for prime-aged stay at home defensemen who shine in the playoffs. Savard (freakin' Savard!) got a 1st and a 3rd. Chiarot went for more.

    I think have to realize that there is going to be a team that pays the price for him once he's on the market. Maybe it won't be the Blues though... I wonder if Toronto or Edmonton pays that price, especially since he has term.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    I totally get your point. But we've seen 2 years in a row what the market is for prime-aged stay at home defensemen who shine in the playoffs. Savard (freakin' Savard!) got a 1st and a 3rd. Chiarot went for more.

    I think have to realize that there is going to be a team that pays the price for him once he's on the market. Maybe it won't be the Blues though... I wonder if Toronto or Edmonton pays that price, especially since he has term.


    maybe but hes also only an LD unlike chariot and savard which is the biggest reason there value was so high
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    maybe but hes also only an LD unlike chariot and savard which is the biggest reason there value was so high


    Chiarot was a LD...
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    I like Letang but 5 years at 8M$ is way too much. I would give 7M$ for 3 years max but IMO I would pass we are rebuilding and we need to spend on young talented players.
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    I like Letang but 5 years at 8M$ is way too much. I would give 7M$ for 3 years max but IMO I would pass we are rebuilding and we need to spend on young talented players.


    You can't just have kids on your team. They need some veterans to help them understand how to be a professional and what it takes to win. Letang is one of the league's best and is finding ways to stay on top. 8M will be a hometown discount IMO. He can get 8.5-9.5 as the top D on the market have been getting as of last season.
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    Chiarot was a LD...


    yes i know your point?
    he also can play RD
    edmundson doesnt
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    Quoting: jonh514
    You can't just have kids on your team. They need some veterans to help them understand how to be a professional and what it takes to win. Letang is one of the league's best and is finding ways to stay on top. 8M will be a hometown discount IMO. He can get 8.5-9.5 as the top D on the market have been getting as of last season.


    I see your point. We have Edmundson, Savard Byron and Price. Letang is too expensive we will regret it like Gallagher.
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    I like Hoffman. I think he's a good player and not at all overpaid at 4.5M - Some team will take him on for his offensive instincts, if not the Pens. He CAN score 30 goals playing with a player like Crosby or Malkin. If not to offload the salary, the habs would definitely keep him. It just so happens that our old GM overpaid a bunch of players it's nearly impossible to get rid of, like Armia, Gallagher, Drouin and we need to trade the players we CAN like Hoffman & Edmundson.


    Hoffman is a powerplay specialist and stinks at even strength. Sure Hoffman COULD score 30 playing with Crosby or Malkin. And my aunt COULD be my uncle if she had balls.
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    I think that's fair, but Jarmo Kekäläinen has come to town a number of times to scout him personally. I bet a 2nd round pick gets it done! - FYI I modified the trade to a 2nd & a 4th based on your comment!


    That 2nd would have to be Montreal’s 2nd for this to become even remotely close. The Jackets have too many contracts at the NHL level especially forwards. With younger players needing playing time I just can’t see the Jackets taking on a player with no real use and more or less complicates the situation. The reward has to be worth it.
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