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Créé par: Wqrrior
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2022
Publié: 8 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
1874 125 $
2835 000 $
21 300 000 $
2975 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
2800 000 $
1800 000 $
1900 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Oesterle, Jordan
  2. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DET)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
2.
PHI
  1. Grundström, Carl [Droits de RFA]
  2. Walker, Sean
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Sanheim, Travis (1 425 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
3.
PHI
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de PHI
Logo de LAK
Logo de DET
Logo de DAL
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
2023
Logo de PHI
Logo de DET
Logo de PHI
Logo de FLA
Logo de PHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
2024
Logo de PHI
Logo de FLA
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $71 793 720 $295 000 $1 150 000 $10 706 280 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
874 125 $874 125 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
835 000 $835 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance725 000 $$725K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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8 avr. 2022 à 2 h 41
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Detroit declines, we have no need for wingers.
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8 avr. 2022 à 6 h 56
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Red Wings decline. Too much to give up.
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8 avr. 2022 à 8 h 49
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I wouldn't mind taking farabee I'm not sure that's the deal though.
8 avr. 2022 à 8 h 53
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I don't know how any red wings fan can say no to this deal for farabee. Look what Devin toews did for avs and it costs them 2 2nds. Those 2 2nds in the Grand scheme mean nothing and farabee is better then zadina. This is a no brainer if flyers would do this, which they wouldn't
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8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 15
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Quoting: buffbry
I don't know how any red wings fan can say no to this deal for farabee. Look what Devin toews did for avs and it costs them 2 2nds. Those 2 2nds in the Grand scheme mean nothing and farabee is better then zadina. This is a no brainer if flyers would do this, which they wouldn't


I'm glad I'm not going insane reading some of the other comments in this thread lmao. This is like, very very very heavily in favor of the Red Wings
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8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 25
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I really don't think Detroit will move on from Zadina just yet. He is only 22 and has yet to play a full season in the NHL. Unless they can get a high end young Center to replace him I think they will give him at least one more season to prove he can be a top 6 player. Value is there but don't think Detroit makes the move.
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8 avr. 2022 à 11 h 2
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Quoting: buffbry
I don't know how any red wings fan can say no to this deal for farabee. Look what Devin toews did for avs and it costs them 2 2nds. Those 2 2nds in the Grand scheme mean nothing and farabee is better then zadina. This is a no brainer if flyers would do this, which they wouldn't


Farabee is better than Zadina but he's not better than Bertuzzi, Vrána, or Raymond. Farabee is comparable to Fabbri in scoring which would put him around 4th to 5th among our wingers. Farabee is a left shooter just as Bert, Kuba, Filip, and Robby, the only right shooter we have in the top-6 is Raymond. Farabee has a salary of $5 million.

With Berggren (for sure) and Söderblom (possibly) on the right wing next season the question becomes where would Farabee play? Berggren is having a great year in GR and Söderblom is having a massive breakout year in the SHL.

Then add together what we're giving up. We're likely to give up a couple of 3rd round picks to fix our left side defense. With Oesterle being the only LD under contract traded away here Yzerman absolutely has to get two new veterans, he's not going to run four rookies on LD. If this trade is made we will be giving up four top-3 round picks this season.

Those two 2nd round picks can be put to better use by patching holes that are much much bigger than a middle-6 winger spot. Like moving up in the draft to get a centre that we need way more than a winger or by offer-sheeting someone that is just as good as Farabee for $4.1 million which would cost us only one 2nd round pick (Dylan Strome, Jason Robertson, Adrian Kempe, Mangiapane, Jesse Puljujärvi).

A trade cannot be evaluated out of context. What players do we have at the position? What is coming up through the prospect pool? What are our biggest needs that should be fixed first? If there's a choice, and it could very well come to that, between getting the centre we want in the draft and doing this trade then this trade shouldn't be done. Getting a winger that isn't going to be on the top line simply isn't that important at this point in the rebuild. Getting us a working LD and a bona fide top-2 centre is much much more important.
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8 avr. 2022 à 11 h 42
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Farabee is better than Zadina but he's not better than Bertuzzi, Vrána, or Raymond. Farabee is comparable to Fabbri in scoring which would put him around 4th to 5th among our wingers. Farabee is a left shooter just as Bert, Kuba, Filip, and Robby, the only right shooter we have in the top-6 is Raymond. Farabee has a salary of $5 million.

With Berggren (for sure) and Söderblom (possibly) on the right wing next season the question becomes where would Farabee play? Berggren is having a great year in GR and Söderblom is having a massive breakout year in the SHL.

Then add together what we're giving up. We're likely to give up a couple of 3rd round picks to fix our left side defense. With Oesterle being the only LD under contract traded away here Yzerman absolutely has to get two new veterans, he's not going to run four rookies on LD. If this trade is made we will be giving up four top-3 round picks this season.

Those two 2nd round picks can be put to better use by patching holes that are much much bigger than a middle-6 winger spot. Like moving up in the draft to get a centre that we need way more than a winger or by offer-sheeting someone that is just as good as Farabee for $4.1 million which would cost us only one 2nd round pick (Dylan Strome, Jason Robertson, Adrian Kempe, Mangiapane, Jesse Puljujärvi).

A trade cannot be evaluated out of context. What players do we have at the position? What is coming up through the prospect pool? What are our biggest needs that should be fixed first? If there's a choice, and it could very well come to that, between getting the centre we want in the draft and doing this trade then this trade shouldn't be done. Getting a winger that isn't going to be on the top line simply isn't that important at this point in the rebuild. Getting us a working LD and a bona fide top-2 centre is much much more important.


Outstanding post. 👍
8 avr. 2022 à 11 h 49
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I really don't think Detroit will move on from Zadina just yet. He is only 22 and has yet to play a full season in the NHL. Unless they can get a high end young Center to replace him I think they will give him at least one more season to prove he can be a top 6 player. Value is there but don't think Detroit makes the move.


I think Stevie will give Zadina one more season. Let's see what he can do playing a full season with Vrana. I had high hopes this season for Zadina because he showed some good chemistry with Vrana after the Mantha trade. But Vrana was injured and it killed any chance of Detroit having 2 scoring lines.

Zadina's value is low right now so why trade him? It makes no sense giving him away. I like Farabee and he's definitely better than Zadina but adding 2 seconds? That's too much for me given how successful Stevie is at drafting.
8 avr. 2022 à 12 h 6
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Horrible value for Philly. Also, if they're tearing it down, why would they move Farabee?
He's like the only "untouchable" on the roster, alongside Hart
8 avr. 2022 à 13 h 19
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Farabee is better than Zadina but he's not better than Bertuzzi, Vrána, or Raymond. Farabee is comparable to Fabbri in scoring which would put him around 4th to 5th among our wingers. Farabee is a left shooter just as Bert, Kuba, Filip, and Robby, the only right shooter we have in the top-6 is Raymond. Farabee has a salary of $5 million.

With Berggren (for sure) and Söderblom (possibly) on the right wing next season the question becomes where would Farabee play? Berggren is having a great year in GR and Söderblom is having a massive breakout year in the SHL.

Then add together what we're giving up. We're likely to give up a couple of 3rd round picks to fix our left side defense. With Oesterle being the only LD under contract traded away here Yzerman absolutely has to get two new veterans, he's not going to run four rookies on LD. If this trade is made we will be giving up four top-3 round picks this season.

Those two 2nd round picks can be put to better use by patching holes that are much much bigger than a middle-6 winger spot. Like moving up in the draft to get a centre that we need way more than a winger or by offer-sheeting someone that is just as good as Farabee for $4.1 million which would cost us only one 2nd round pick (Dylan Strome, Jason Robertson, Adrian Kempe, Mangiapane, Jesse Puljujärvi).

A trade cannot be evaluated out of context. What players do we have at the position? What is coming up through the prospect pool? What are our biggest needs that should be fixed first? If there's a choice, and it could very well come to that, between getting the centre we want in the draft and doing this trade then this trade shouldn't be done. Getting a winger that isn't going to be on the top line simply isn't that important at this point in the rebuild. Getting us a working LD and a bona fide top-2 centre is much much more important.


He's better then Fabbri and it's not even close

Top 6 W
Bert, vrana, farabee, Raymond

3rd line W
Bergy, Fabbri

Highly doubt soderblom will make NHL next year, he will be in grand rapids.

Farabee is super fast and has a sick shot, can't just pass up on a top 3 forward because you think we have too many winger's. He's a clear top 3/6 winger.

We also have no idea if Bert is sticking around long term and farabee is a sick replacement for him if that is the route yzerman is going.

No chance the flyers are trading this kid for this package, but if they did and we passed we are the dumbest franchise in the history of franchises
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