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Date de création initiale: 3 avr. 2022
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3 avr. 2022 à 8 h 42
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Nope from Winnipeg. It begins and ends with Schneider as there is nothing else on the Rags roster that is of interest. I know NY fans say he’s untouchable but unless he is available these Scheifele to NY offers need to stop.
Nils is a good piece, but we have enough small offensive defenders, Chytil and Krav are meh. It would need to be next years 1st as this years has a condition on it. So replace Nils with Schneider, take out Krav and swap this years 1st with the 23’ 1st.
Scheifele/NY 22’ 2nd for Schneider/Chytil/23’ 1st (T10 protected)
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3 avr. 2022 à 8 h 42
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Jets say no, all things indicate that they’ll be making big moves this summer. I’d imagine they’d be looking for a quality piece to be the main return in a deal for Scheifele and hellebuyck.

I still believe it would take Schneider to get the deal done.
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3 avr. 2022 à 9 h 9
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Quoting: tsyls
Jets say no, all things indicate that they’ll be making big moves this summer. I’d imagine they’d be looking for a quality piece to be the main return in a deal for Scheifele and hellebuyck.

I still believe it would take Schneider to get the deal done.


I'd say my deal in the trade Machine makes sense with kakko Schneider a small other asset and a first
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3 avr. 2022 à 9 h 17
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I'd say my deal in the trade Machine makes sense with kakko Schneider a small other asset and a first


At this point I’d be happy with Schneider and a pick. Scheifele is absolutely tanking his trade value by how he’s playing. Before I would’ve said Kakko and Schneider.
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3 avr. 2022 à 9 h 21
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Quoting: tsyls
At this point I’d be happy with Schneider and a pick. Scheifele is absolutely tanking his trade value by how he’s playing. Before I would’ve said Kakko and Schneider.


Maybe a deal like Schneider 2023 first kravtsov and something else but I feel like the kakko deal works for both as the jets need a rw for when wheeler drops off ik Windjammer will say he's not needed because he's left handed but he plays the right side atleast I see kakko being moved before Lafreniere due to kakko being a year older and behind laf in development just hope Scheifele can be moved for what the team needs
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3 avr. 2022 à 9 h 43
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Honestly rather keep Copp at 4.5M. Keep all the assets and move them if makes sense
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3 avr. 2022 à 10 h 6
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Worst center in the league in Expected goals against. No thank you
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3 avr. 2022 à 11 h 7
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Try making a 22/23 roster for the Rangers. Highly unpractical for the Ranger for cap reasons
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3 avr. 2022 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: Howie
I'd say my deal in the trade Machine makes sense with kakko Schneider a small other asset and a first


Schneider is a definite must in any Scheifele return, but no thanks to Kakko…
3 avr. 2022 à 12 h 12
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Trading a boatload of assets- some which project to be high end NHL players…for a 29 yo whose play is seemingly slipping yet is due for a new contract in another 2 years…no thanks.

This move would take NYR backwards…instead, extend Copp, and give Chytl another year at 3C with good players on that 3rd line. In the meantime look to trade a D prospect or two for a young C and/or draft and develop a few C prospects.
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3 avr. 2022 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: jgimp69
Nope from Winnipeg. It begins and ends with Schneider as there is nothing else on the Rags roster that is of interest. I know NY fans say he’s untouchable but unless he is available these Scheifele to NY offers need to stop.
Nils is a good piece, but we have enough small offensive defenders, Chytil and Krav are meh. It would need to be next years 1st as this years has a condition on it. So replace Nils with Schneider, take out Krav and swap this years 1st with the 23’ 1st.
Scheifele/NY 22’ 2nd for Schneider/Chytil/23’ 1st (T10 protected)


You're right, the Scheifele to NYR trades need to stop because; A - Schneider isn't available, period & B - Rangers are fine without Scheifele.
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3 avr. 2022 à 13 h 15
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You're right, the Scheifele to NYR trades need to stop because; A - Schneider isn't available, period & B - Rangers are fine without Scheifele.


No from Winnipeg. If the Rangers want Scheifele, it won't be a collection of mostly low to no value players that the Jets take back. It will cost at least one player Ranger fans hate losing.

As others have said the only interesting piece the Rangers have is Schneider, so it would need to be Schneider, the 23 1st and probably something else.
3 avr. 2022 à 13 h 28
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No from Winnipeg. If the Rangers want Scheifele, it won't be a collection of mostly low to no value players that the Jets take back. It will cost at least one player Ranger fans hate losing.

As others have said the only interesting piece the Rangers have is Schneider, so it would need to be Schneider, the 23 1st and probably something else.


As a Ranger fan, I don't think the Rangers need him and not at that cost, but its irrelevant as Schneider isn't available, period. He is a very good player and the Jets can keep him or trade him to someone else, that's just fine.
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3 avr. 2022 à 13 h 53
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As a Ranger fan, I don't think the Rangers need him and not at that cost, but its irrelevant as Schneider isn't available, period. He is a very good player and the Jets can keep him or trade him to someone else, that's just fine.


Yeah, I think that works for everybody. We all agree that the Jets aren't going to move Scheifele for pieces that don't help them. So, hopefully Ranger fans will stop with the lowball offers.
3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: Windjammer
Yeah, I think that works for everybody. We all agree that the Jets aren't going to move Scheifele for pieces that don't help them. So, hopefully Ranger fans will stop with the lowball offers.


Hopefully. And hopefully Jets fans will stop asking for players that are not available for trade. Doubtful though.
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3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 16
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Hopefully. And hopefully Jets fans will stop asking for players that are not available for trade. Doubtful though.


It's more on Ranger fans than Jet fans as they make more of the proposals, but I agree, I doubt it stops.

But if Ranger fans make the proposal then Jets fans have every right to ask for a fair return.
3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 24
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It's more on Ranger fans than Jet fans as they make more of the proposals, but I agree, I doubt it stops.

But if Ranger fans make the proposal then Jets fans have every right to ask for a fair return.


I agree that if its a Ranger fan making the post, the Jets fans can respond accordingly, and vis versa. Just like the nonsense a Jet Fan just posted with Laffy and Schneider for Schief. Jet fans are just as guilty.
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3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 28
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I agree that if its a Ranger fan making the post, the Jets fans can respond accordingly, and vis versa. Just like the nonsense a Jet Fan just posted with Laffy and Schneider for Schief. Jet fans are just as guilty.


Actually that's fairly reasonable value wise. The Rangers probably still need to add a piece.
3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 32
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Actually that's fairly reasonable value wise. The Rangers probably still need to add a piece.


Ah...trolling away. Ok, fine.
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3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 41
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Ah...trolling away. Ok, fine.


I wouldn't call what Rangers do in most cases trolling. They're just fans that massively overrate prospects and their actual value compared to proven NHL players.

It's what fans do, established players have various faults that can be pointed out to try and lower value, while prospects either have no faults or their faults can be excused because eventually that prospect will progress to their maximum potential and no less. Even though reaching maximum potential almost never happens.
3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 46
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Quoting: Windjammer
I wouldn't call what Rangers do in most cases trolling. They're just fans that massively overrate prospects and their actual value compared to proven NHL players.

It's what fans do, established players have various faults that can be pointed out to try and lower value, while prospects either have no faults or their faults can be excused because eventually that prospect will progress to their maximum potential and no less. Even though reaching maximum potential almost never happens.


Right, we massively over rate Schneider but you DEMAND he be part of any trade, just like Hab fans and Canuck fans. The jealousy of the Ranger's prospects is so transparent and its hysterical. Well, he's staying a Ranger for a long time, so post any nonsense you want here, its all just a pipedream.
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3 avr. 2022 à 14 h 57
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Right, we massively over rate Schneider but you DEMAND he be part of any trade, just like Hab fans and Canuck fans. The jealousy of the Ranger's prospects is so transparent and its hysterical. Well, he's staying a Ranger for a long time, so post any nonsense you want here, its all just a pipedream.


It's all good. We're only fans and 90% of the time we have no idea what our GM is actually thinking.
3 avr. 2022 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: Windjammer
It's all good. We're only fans and 90% of the time we have no idea what our GM is actually thinking.


More like 100%. I remember pre TDL posts by Jet fans about what Copp would get, stuff like Lundqvist plus a 1st round pick and another player or pick, and what did he actually get? A B prospect that can't beat out Greg McKegg for 4th line duties and what will end up being a pair of late 2nd round draft picks, so over valuing of players is done by all fans, including jets fans.
 
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