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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2022
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Miller trade might require a first rounder or better prospect but I think this deal works for both sides, leafs shake up the core and Canucks get an elite winger who is a couple years younger and likely won't cost as much as Miller when he hits free agency.
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30 mars 2022 à 0 h 14
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All that for 1 year of Miller.
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30 mars 2022 à 0 h 34
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Why are the leafs adding?
30 mars 2022 à 0 h 42
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Why are the leafs adding?


Because Miller is much better than Nylander and it’s not even close. If they can sign him to a contract, this would be a steal
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30 mars 2022 à 0 h 45
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Because Miller is much better than Nylander and it’s not even close. If they can sign him to a contract, this would be a steal


Older, more icetime, power play time,doesnt drive his own offence, less term.
This would be a steal, for Vancouver
30 mars 2022 à 0 h 51
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Older, more icetime, power play time,doesnt drive his own offence, less term.
This would be a steal, for Vancouver


wired cause Nylander has 60 points this year 23 of them being on the power play, % of his points being around 38% compared to Millers 35% power play points which are 28 points of his 80 points, meaning Nylander has more of his points Percentage wise on the Powerplay than Miller, 20 point gap despite Miller playing with worse linmates, Miller 100% drives his line and honestly the Canucks Offence this year, so outside of him being older and having less term Nylander for Miller the play 1 for 1 is a huge win for the leafs as Miller is the better play today by miles
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30 mars 2022 à 1 h 3
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wired cause Nylander has 60 points this year 23 of them being on the power play, % of his points being around 38% compared to Millers 35% power play points which are 28 points of his 80 points, meaning Nylander has more of his points Percentage wise on the Powerplay than Miller, 20 point gap despite Miller playing with worse linmates, Miller 100% drives his line and honestly the Canucks Offence this year, so outside of him being older and having less term Nylander for Miller the play 1 for 1 is a huge win for the leafs as Miller is the better play today by miles


I wasnt talking about percentagez, i was talking raw ice time. Miller has averaged between 2-3 mins per game more than nylander total not to mention spending almost all his time with petterson, boeser and garland while nylander gets tavares and a rotating cast of kerfoot or whoever else.
And no, he doesnt drive his line oh, ahd he's shooting well above career average which isnt sustainable, unlike nylander
30 mars 2022 à 1 h 11
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
I wasnt talking about percentagez, i was talking raw ice time. Miller has averaged between 2-3 mins per game more than nylander total not to mention spending almost all his time with petterson, boeser and garland while nylander gets tavares and a rotating cast of kerfoot or whoever else.
And no, he doesnt drive his line oh, ahd he's shooting well above career average which isnt sustainable, unlike nylander


Miller has barley played with Pettersson this year, Boeser has had a down year, Garland is on and off his line, sure Miller has more ice time but thats because he is a number one center, so you saying he doesn't drive the offense is just clear wrong Tavares is also a way better Line mate then Boeser, Miller's shooting percentage this year is 16.3 in his tenure in Van so far he has shot 16.4 14.2 and this year 16.3 in fact his career low is 12% and that was when he was playing 3rd line in Tampa in fact out of his 10 seasons of being a constant nhler 7 of his seasons he has shot at or above 16% so thats just wrong. but please be more confidently wrong
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30 mars 2022 à 1 h 35
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Miller has barley played with Pettersson this year, Boeser has had a down year, Garland is on and off his line, sure Miller has more ice time but thats because he is a number one center, so you saying he doesn't drive the offense is just clear wrong Tavares is also a way better Line mate then Boeser, Miller's shooting percentage this year is 16.3 in his tenure in Van so far he has shot 16.4 14.2 and this year 16.3 in fact his career low is 12% and that was when he was playing 3rd line in Tampa in fact out of his 10 seasons of being a constant nhler 7 of his seasons he has shot at or above 16% so thats just wrong. but please be more confidently wrong


Millwr has played over 270 minutes this year with petterson, including over 60% of his power play time. And him getting more ice time is why he has that many more points and shooting 2ish % higher than career average is infact quitr high, but sure thing bud hes totally gonna do that forever
30 mars 2022 à 1 h 45
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Millwr has played over 270 minutes this year with petterson, including over 60% of his power play time. And him getting more ice time is why he has that many more points and shooting 2ish % higher than career average is infact quitr high, but sure thing bud hes totally gonna do that forever


270 minutes would be about 13 games at 20 minutes per night, does the 270 included time on the powerplay? but speaking of powerplay saying he plays with pettey on playing the powerplay is dumb because Nylander plays with Matthews Marner and Tavares on the powerplay, you think with the leafs having one of the best power plays in the leauge Nylander would have more points, the shooting % average will be lower from years where he played less then 40 games hence why i said since being regular nhler
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30 mars 2022 à 2 h 3
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270 minutes would be about 13 games at 20 minutes per night, does the 270 included time on the powerplay? but speaking of powerplay saying he plays with pettey on playing the powerplay is dumb because Nylander plays with Matthews Marner and Tavares on the powerplay, you think with the leafs having one of the best power plays in the leauge Nylander would have more points, the shooting % average will be lower from years where he played less then 40 games hence why i said since being regular nhler


You said he barely played with him, he played 60% of his power play time with him, that isnt barely.
And it's weird how he gets a pass for boeser having a down year but nylandrr doesnt for tavares shooting 2% for like a month and a half
30 mars 2022 à 2 h 59
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Might be a worthwhile gamble for the Leafs who are absolutely in win now mode until Matthews' contract is up at least. Could be the hockey version of Kawhi.

Depends on how much the Canucks value Nylander.
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30 mars 2022 à 7 h 28
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Canes pass. Kerfoot is of no use to the Canes. Besides, if the Leafs were to make that Miller move, Kerfoot could be considered a cap dump, so the Canes won’t pay to take one Kerfoot.
30 mars 2022 à 7 h 45
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Quoting: theleano1
wired cause Nylander has 60 points this year 23 of them being on the power play, % of his points being around 38% compared to Millers 35% power play points which are 28 points of his 80 points, meaning Nylander has more of his points Percentage wise on the Powerplay than Miller, 20 point gap despite Miller playing with worse linmates, Miller 100% drives his line and honestly the Canucks Offence this year, so outside of him being older and having less term Nylander for Miller the play 1 for 1 is a huge win for the leafs as Miller is the better play today by miles


Man all Canuck players are inferior to JT and Kerfoot? I thought Petterson, Boeser, Garland and Hoglander are better than everyone on TO? Especially better than the slow declining overpaid JT. I can't keep up with this stuff.
30 mars 2022 à 7 h 48
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Canes pass. Kerfoot is of no use to the Canes. Besides, if the Leafs were to make that Miller move, Kerfoot could be considered a cap dump, so the Canes won’t pay to take one Kerfoot.


60 point winger making 3.5 million in a career year with another year of term is a cap dump? I guess so is Nylander. I guess if they move Marner it's a cap dump because he has a salary. Capfriendly where everyone on the leafs is a cap dump.
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30 mars 2022 à 10 h 15
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Canes pass. Kerfoot is of no use to the Canes. Besides, if the Leafs were to make that Miller move, Kerfoot could be considered a cap dump, so the Canes won’t pay to take one Kerfoot.


Not if this deal is made first, he would be a useful bottom 6 player for the canes
30 mars 2022 à 10 h 52
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And a Nylander trade would be made to help create some cap flexibility and/or get better goaltender.
30 mars 2022 à 11 h 0
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Not if this deal is made first, he would be a useful bottom 6 player for the canes


If that deal is made first, yes, it wouldn’t be a cap dump. But I don’t think the Canes would want to pay that much for what would be a fourth liner on the Canes. If he would be an upgrade in the top 6, the Canes might pull the trigger, but he isn’t an upgrade on anyone in the Canes top 9. I do still think the Canes pass.
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30 mars 2022 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
You said he barely played with him, he played 60% of his power play time with him, that isnt barely.
And it's weird how he gets a pass for boeser having a down year but nylandrr doesnt for tavares shooting 2% for like a month and a half


Jared of London, *UK* I think because Hockey doesnt seem like a sport you watch. You talk as if youve watched all these canucks games but are talking in inaccurate platitudes. Miller and Petey have NOT played that much together 5-on-5 this year. Miller 100% drives his line offensively 5-on-5 and tbh drives the PP too. With Nylander's higher cap hit, lesser ability to produce offensively and position (just to name a few) TOR would absolutely have to add especially if VAN is also adding a capable RHD @850k. These have been some yikes takes, Jared.
30 mars 2022 à 20 h 45
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
You said he barely played with him, he played 60% of his power play time with him, that isnt barely.
And it's weird how he gets a pass for boeser having a down year but nylandrr doesnt for tavares shooting 2% for like a month and a half


Tavares still has more points then Boeser? Though they are close on goals, so sure if you want to give Nylander a pass for that go ahead, but you do realize that if you reduce Millers by 2%( so it's in line with his shooting%) he would still have 79 points this year right?
30 mars 2022 à 20 h 47
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Man all Canuck players are inferior to JT and Kerfoot? I thought Petterson, Boeser, Garland and Hoglander are better than everyone on TO? Especially better than the slow declining overpaid JT. I can't keep up with this stuff.

I can tell lol because that's not what i said what's so ever, I said Tavares is a better player and Boeser, no idea where you are getting Pettersson and Garland and Hoglander are better than everyone on the Leafs, that's some massive mental gymnastics
 
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