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Oh my lord why are you giving up all of that for a guy that can barely defend.

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15 mars 2022 à 15 h 19

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Thats an overpay for Severson

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Quoting: revaze15

Oh my lord why are you giving up all of that for a guy that can barely defend.

he can defend. Has moments (more often against the Leafs for some reason), but is a solid 2 way D on pace for like 50 some points. 6'2 205, way better than Holl in all aspects. Muzz needs a big, two-way puck mover as his partner. I think with Brodie or Muzzin he'd be elite.

It's not like the barrie trade where we got someone who can't defend

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15 mars 2022 à 15 h 24

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Isles need more than that to retain. Varly should be worth a 2nd & a prospect alone, and add a sweetener for that $1.2M retention.

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Quoting: revaze15

Oh my lord why are you giving up all of that for a guy that can barely defend.

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Thats an overpay for Severson

Severson is 7th overall (out of 303) in defensive GAR (link)

And 22nd in scoring among dmen (link)

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15 mars 2022 à 15 h 38

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No from Winnipeg. They don't have the cap space for Kerfoot next season.

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Isles need more than that to retain. Varly should be worth a 2nd & a prospect alone, and add a sweetener for that $1.2M retention.

I'd add a prospect. Maybe someone along the lines of Abramov/Villeneuve sounds about right to me.

I heard that reported price would be around a 2nd and 3rd so yea, would prob have to throw something else in for the retention. Idea was that it'd be clean salary in/out moving Mrazek's 3.8M for Varly at 3.8M

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15 mars 2022 à 15 h 50

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Severson is 7th overall (out of 303) in defensive GAR (link)

And 22nd in scoring among dmen (link)

yup. Would take a lot of pressure off of Muzzin who has had to carry that pairing for years.

15 mars 2022 à 16 h 28

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Quoting: revaze15

Oh my lord why are you giving up all of that for a guy that can barely defend.

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Thats an overpay for Severson

I watched Matthews for a few games against the Habs in the playoffs last year
He's awful. Most overrated player in the NHL. $11M cap dump

15 mars 2022 à 17 h 10

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I watched Matthews for a few games against the Habs in the playoffs last year
He's awful. Most overrated player in the NHL. $11M cap dump

I watched the outdoor game.
Dirty player.
Violent temper.
Must be bad for locker room.

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15 mars 2022 à 17 h 26

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Severson is 7th overall (out of 303) in defensive GAR (link)

And 22nd in scoring among dmen (link)

Not worth 2 A prospects, a first, and a young depth defenseman.

15 mars 2022 à 17 h 45

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I watched the outdoor game.
Dirty player.
Violent temper.
Must be bad for locker room.

And too egotistic
On the cover of 2 NHL games
Bad player. Not sure why Leafs fans overrate him so much. He sucks

15 mars 2022 à 18 h 8

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Not worth 2 A prospects, a first, and a young depth defenseman.

its not 2 A prospects its an A + C + 25 year old bottom pair D + 1st for half retained Severson for 2 playoff runs

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Quoting: Devil

I watched Matthews for a few games against the Habs in the playoffs last year
He's awful. Most overrated player in the NHL. $11M cap dump

I didnt say he was bad one time, I said thats an overpay, which it is

15 mars 2022 à 18 h 48

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its not 2 A prospects its an A + C + 25 year old bottom pair D + 1st for half retained Severson for 2 playoff runs

Clearly you dont know much about Abruzzese then. He is almost considered untouchable by Dubas per Friedman.

15 mars 2022 à 19 h 37

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Not worth 2 A prospects, a first, and a young depth defenseman.

Fine by me. I'd rather have Sevs locked up long-term.

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Clearly you dont know much about Abruzzese then. He is almost considered untouchable by Dubas per Friedman.

Has he said he will sign?
He grew up playing here. Lived in Rockland County.
They talk about his upcoming decision sometimes on Harvard broadcasts.

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15 mars 2022 à 19 h 41

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And too egotistic
On the cover of 2 NHL games
Bad player. Not sure why Leafs fans overrate him so much. He sucks

Still milking that one big trophy he won in the 2010's.
Huge contract.
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15 mars 2022 à 20 h 3

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Fine by me. I'd rather have Sevs locked up long-term.

I mean I haven't heard anything contract-wise but if he doesn't want to sign with the leafs this trade makes a little more sense. Niemela would have to be replaced with someone else for this trade to work tho.

Has he said he will sign?
He grew up playing here. Lived in Rockland County.
They talk about his upcoming decision sometimes on Harvard broadcasts.

15 mars 2022 à 20 h 51

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