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Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2022
Publié: 15 mars 2022
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Penguins sent their director of scouting to watch Montreal and Seattle. Rumors saying they are eyeing Chiarot (which to me doesn’t make sense unless they move MP), Lehkonen, and Eberle. I for one think Eberle would mesh extremely well with Crosby for the right price and Lehkonen would be a very good bottom 6 player for the Pens going into the playoffs. Thoughts?
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15 mars 2022 à 5 h 32
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that lehkonen trade is laughable. Pens should be adding a 1st in there
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15 mars 2022 à 6 h 3
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I haven't seen a lot of Pettersson so I don't know his situation.
He's averaging less than 16 minutes and being used sparingly on special teams, with a contract over $4M for 4 years.
I can't see any team being too keen on acquiring him.

You want one of 3 things from a defenseman:
1. Offensive contributions including PP
2. Defensive contributions including PK
3. (Ideally) Both

He's not doing any of those while playing 3rd pairing minutes with a 2nd pairing contract.
Can you explain why?
15 mars 2022 à 6 h 11
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Quoting: Tarlam01
that lehkonen trade is laughable. Pens should be adding a 1st in there


In what world is a 3rd line winger worth a 1st??
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15 mars 2022 à 6 h 24
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In what world is a 3rd line winger worth a 1st??


A world where Tampa, Florida, Colorado, and (insert team here) are all eyeing each other and know they are probably going to have to go through each other eventually.
That will be easier to do if you have Lehkonen and they don't. Who's going to blink first? It's not going to be Montreal.
15 mars 2022 à 6 h 37
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A world where Tampa, Florida, Colorado, and (insert team here) are all eyeing each other and know they are probably going to have to go through each other eventually.
That will be easier to do if you have Lehkonen and they don't. Who's going to blink first? It's not going to be Montreal.


Keep dreaming dude
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15 mars 2022 à 6 h 48
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Keep dreaming dude


It's not out of the question. The proposal here would be Lehkonen and a 3rd for Pettersson and a 1st.
15 mars 2022 à 6 h 50
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It's not out of the question. The proposal here would be Lehkonen and a 3rd for Pettersson and a 1st.


Seems pretty unlikely to me
Teams are gonna use their 1sts to get a guy like Giroux,
not a 3rd line guy
15 mars 2022 à 7 h 22
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It's not out of the question. The proposal here would be Lehkonen and a 3rd for Pettersson and a 1st.


you have to realise that a top 4D has more value then a bottom 6 winger... plus Pete is the better player
15 mars 2022 à 7 h 25
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you have to realise that a top 4D has more value then a bottom 6 winger... plus Pete is the better player


That's why I asked the question above. He's not a top 4D by stats or deployment?
His value to Montreal is near zero regardless. LHD isn't a need.
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15 mars 2022 à 7 h 28
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That's why I asked the question above. He's not a top 4D by stats or deployment?


yeah he is... not for the last couple of games but I believe because he is being traded sooner rather than later

His value to Montreal is near zero regardless. LHD isn't a need.

that's fine
15 mars 2022 à 7 h 44
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you have to realise that a top 4D has more value then a bottom 6 winger... plus Pete is the better player


You have to realize MP is not a top 4 dman. Less than 17 mins career atoi and has been deployed consistently as a top 4 dman once in his career 3 years ago. He is on a bad value contract
15 mars 2022 à 7 h 50
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You have to realize MP is not a top 4 dman. Less than 17 mins career atoi and has been deployed consistently as a top 4 dman once in his career 3 years ago. He is on a bad value contract


no he is not... he played less minutes last year cuz he had dumo (who's the perfect Dpair for Letang) and Matheson (who is playing unreal) in front of him so it's not a downgrade on Pete... our D core has been just this good

he's a good D who could play top 4 min 2nd pp unit and pk for many many teams
15 mars 2022 à 8 h 17
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no he is not... he played less minutes last year cuz he had dumo (who's the perfect Dpair for Letang) and Matheson (who is playing unreal) in front of him so it's not a downgrade on Pete... our D core has been just this good

he's a good D who could play top 4 min 2nd pp unit and pk for many many teams


Sure hes playing 6th dman minutes and neither special team because of the people in front of him. Give your head a shake they wouldn't be running letang out there for 26 mins a night and dumolin for 22 if they trusted MP to play more.
15 mars 2022 à 8 h 56
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Lehkonen will get either a 1st or a quality prospect at the bare minimum
If not keeping him as an RFA is extremely doable as he's not owed a KK like pay day by any means

Given how Pitlick-Lehkonen click with Evans
Its far easier to take a loss on players we dont need who are over paid then get low balled

Odds of us staying healthy til the end of the year is slim
Chances are those 2 will continue to absorb minutes and make an arguement to push out Drouin and Byron next year when they will be pending UFA's that season
Plus MSL keeps saying things like "Good teams have guys like him but Championship teams NEED guys like him"
Its seeming more likely we take a loss on Drouin or Hoffman then move out Lehkonen
15 mars 2022 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: fil97
you have to realise that a top 4D has more value then a bottom 6 winger... plus Pete is the better player


Ok lets say you dont like Something
You say so then the person offering gets offended an procreeds to shove it table spoons at a time into your throat

This is what this trade feels like
MTL has absolutely no need for any D that isnt a Right Handed Shot
LD we have so much depth that we have Romanov locked in with Norlinder ,Guhle,Harris and now appraently Petterson competing for it
Thats before you consider our Junior LD tearing it up who are 2-3 years out in some cases again all on LD

On Rd we have Brook who's been used on RW because his D is so bad
Great junior player with speed that would make Byron look slow who cant nail his timing at Pro Levels
Over Skates the Puck a lot creating a lot of turnovers in 2 and 3 vs 1 situations

Yupp That's our RD depth in its entirety lol
Thanks MB
15 mars 2022 à 9 h 40
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If you want a MTL winger for Petterson, you'd have better chances with Hoffman. At least the contracts are similar.
15 mars 2022 à 11 h 33
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Sure hes playing 6th dman minutes and neither special team because of the people in front of him. Give your head a shake they wouldn't be running letang out there for 26 mins a night and dumolin for 22 if they trusted MP to play more.


this shows you don't watch the pens at all
15 mars 2022 à 11 h 36
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Ok lets say you dont like Something
You say so then the person offering gets offended an procreeds to shove it table spoons at a time into your throat

This is what this trade feels like
MTL has absolutely no need for any D that isnt a Right Handed Shot
LD we have so much depth that we have Romanov locked in with Norlinder ,Guhle,Harris and now appraently Petterson competing for it
Thats before you consider our Junior LD tearing it up who are 2-3 years out in some cases again all on LD

On Rd we have Brook who's been used on RW because his D is so bad
Great junior player with speed that would make Byron look slow who cant nail his timing at Pro Levels
Over Skates the Puck a lot creating a lot of turnovers in 2 and 3 vs 1 situations

Yupp That's our RD depth in its entirety lol
Thanks MB


yeah I get it, no deal. I'm ok with it. I'm just saying that adding a 1st in that trade from the pens is just a laughable suggestion that's it.
imo if Pete would have been a RD the trade would have been fair
15 mars 2022 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: Billy739
Lehkonen will get either a 1st or a quality prospect at the bare minimum
If not keeping him as an RFA is extremely doable as he's not owed a KK like pay day by any means

Given how Pitlick-Lehkonen click with Evans
Its far easier to take a loss on players we dont need who are over paid then get low balled

Odds of us staying healthy til the end of the year is slim
Chances are those 2 will continue to absorb minutes and make an arguement to push out Drouin and Byron next year when they will be pending UFA's that season
Plus MSL keeps saying things like "Good teams have guys like him but Championship teams NEED guys like him"
Its seeming more likely we take a loss on Drouin or Hoffman then move out Lehkonen


3rd line wingers don’t get traded for 1st round picks
MTL fans have googlee eyes for this guy
Come on now
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