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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2022
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Comtois this year is producing the same as Poehling
That said there's a clear difference in skill level
But i dont think we're talking a 1st or 2nd round pick here
More like a 4th and 1/3 of Gorniak,Stapley or Olofsson
Or a 3rd and they send Guhle with Comtois

Faksa for Armia just makes sense for me
DAL has a ton of Center and can spare Faksa
Similar Size's and Both play a similar depth Role for the same Contract hit

DAL would be switching a left shot for a right shot though
With only 6/23 NHL players on DAL with a Right Shot with Comeau buried
This leaves a bottom 6 RW slot open that Armia could fill nicely

I also like they've both been to a SCF in the past few years
I think 1 for 1 this makes sense



These trades help us remain competitive next year without hurting our draft position to much this year once we sell off players at the TDL. IF MTL happens to get a top 3 pick and lands a Center ready to Jump to the NHL they have 2 bulk faceoff guys in bottom 6 for years with Dvorak and Faksa. They can help his transition go much more smoothly compared to what Suzuki got.

If we dont get a player in the Draft capable of that we have good enough Center depth to ride
With room to upgrade in the Summer if we see fit
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    10 mars 2022 à 16 h 50
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    Blues pass, they have other needs.
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    10 mars 2022 à 16 h 53
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    A big fat no front Anaheim
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    10 mars 2022 à 16 h 56
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    If we're going to be exchanging currently disappointing youngsters, how about Comtois for Caufield?

    After all, Comtois has a better track record.

    P.S. It doesn't escape our attention that Gorniak, Olofsson and Stapley are all about to become unrestricted free agents.
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 0
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    If we're going to be exchanging currently disappointing youngsters, how about Comtois for Caufield?

    After all, Comtois has a better track record.

    P.S. It doesn't escape our attention that Gorniak, Olofsson and Stapley are all about to become unrestricted free agents.


    You're out of the loop then i take it ?
    15 points in 12 games under MSL with 6 goals
    It took the league's former Mighty Mouse to get Caufield Going
    Know what he did ?
    Took away his PK and DZ shifts so he's fresh for OZ shifts
    He's went pointless only 2/12 games as such
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 1
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    Its funny that escaped your attention
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 2
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    Blues pass, they have other needs.


    Whats the other needs if you dont mind me asking for future reference?
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 3
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    If we're going to be exchanging currently disappointing youngsters, how about Comtois for Caufield?

    After all, Comtois has a better track record.

    P.S. It doesn't escape our attention that Gorniak, Olofsson and Stapley are all about to become unrestricted free agents.


    "Currently disappointing youngsters" you realize Caufield has 14 points in 11 games since the coaching change, right?

    Edit: 15 in 12
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 8
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    A big fat no front Anaheim


    Its open to negotiation
    I was under the impression from what i heard that Comtois was in a similar position to Lehkonen
    Even double checked ANA media sites to make sure it wasnt just Canadian teams talking about things that wont happen ever

    I liked him but Comtois i can live without if you're not looking to sell him
    He's nice to have but Pitlick can just pick up the minutes
    He's having a nice season with 26 points so far i probably shoulda just given him the minutes outright anyways
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 9
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    "Currently disappointing youngsters" you realize Caufield has 14 points in 11 games since the coaching change, right?

    Edit: 15 in 12


    You realize that Vancouver won their first 8 games under Bruce Boudreau, right?

    Small samples are meaningless, especially with a youngster (from my alma mater) who has only 52 career games. As I recall, Ryan Poehling had the NHL's greatest first-game start to any career ever. And that had nothing to do with coaching.
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 11
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    Blues don't need Lekhonen
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 14
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    You realize that Vancouver won their first 8 games under Bruce Boudreau, right?

    Small samples are meaningless, especially with a youngster (from my alma mater) who has only 52 career games. As I recall, Ryan Poehling had the NHL's greatest first-game start to any career ever. And that had nothing to do with coaching.


    Well Vancouver are performing up to what people expected from them. That roster shouldn't have been in the basement, and Boudreau proved that coaching changes can be the solution for underperforming young players (Pettersson).

    Caufield had a remarkable playoff run last season and stalled this season with everyone else on the team because of dreadful coaching.

    As for Poehling, I'm not suggesting he's worth Comtois either, as he had multiple pro seasons to show what he's made of whereas Caufield barely has half a pro season.
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 16
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    You realize that Vancouver won their first 8 games under Bruce Boudreau, right?

    Small samples are meaningless, especially with a youngster (from my alma mater) who has only 52 career games. As I recall, Ryan Poehling had the NHL's greatest first-game start to any career ever. And that had nothing to do with coaching.


    Then why are you arguing the opposite
    Last year and into the playoffs he had 22 points in 35 games a great showing
    Finished 3rd in MTLs playoff scoring

    Had 3 points in his first 15
    20 in his last 27 games

    You're arguing a 15 games stretch defines him with a straight face
    USUALLY you're pretty Fact Based
    On this one im confused as to what Bias you've formed
    If MTL had faced NYI i'd get it Caufield hurt a lot of Feelings in the playoffs
    But i cant Fathom your reason for Choosing blinders on this one
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 18
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    Quoting: Tennisman142
    Blues don't need Lekhonen


    What do the Blue's need?
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 19
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    Then why are you arguing the opposite
    Last year and into the playoffs he had 22 points in 35 games a great showing
    Finished 3rd in playoff scoring

    Had 3 points in his first 15
    20 in his last 27 games

    You're arguing a 15 games stretch defines him with a straight face
    USUALLY you're pretty Fact Based
    On this one im confused as to what Bias you've formed
    If MTL had faced NYI i'd get it Caufield hurt a lot of Feelings in the playoffs
    But i cant Fathom your reason for Choosing blinders on this one


    Guys like Newhook, Jarvis, Kaliyev, McMichael, Krebs are having worse seasons than Caufield (or equal at best), but strangely no one is putting them in the "disappointing youngster" category.
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 28
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    Whats the other needs if you dont mind me asking for future reference?

    Top 4 lhd And getting rid of Scandella really
    I like eddy but we had him so idk of army would trade for him back
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 29
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    So from what I understood Chiarot had a good game in CLGY, but that does not erase a bad season... Rangers decline.
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 29
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    Guys like Newhook, Jarvis, Kaliyev, McMichael, Krebs are having worse seasons than Caufield (or equal at best), but strangely no one is putting them in the "disappointing youngster" category.


    I noticed that to
    Its the high expectations
    I think had Danault stayed he and Gally would be on top line
    I think Suzuki and Caufield woulda been used more for OZ scoring then Shut down roles DD had them playing

    High Expectations are one thing as repeating what you've done isnt impossible at all
    But adding in new roles because you let Tatar,Danault,and Perry leave is just not cool
    Playing the high level shut down match ups they handled took Years to develop with Support in atleast 2/3 years to develop (Not sure on Perry)


    As you seen those issues get addressed as the season went on and people returned
    You seen Caufield start hitting a lot of posts but slowly they started producing points
    Then those points grew and now he just seems to be on fire

    Those 15 games had to be the longest of his life
    He said in an interview its the longest he went without a goal at any level
    Credit to him for starting to shake that off on his own
    Credit to MSL for helping him get out of his head and back into the game
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 30
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    Guys like Newhook, Jarvis, Kaliyev, McMichael, Krebs are having worse seasons than Caufield (or equal at best), but strangely no one is putting them in the "disappointing youngster" category.


    Because three months ago, if we had offered you Comtois for Caufield, you guys would have gotten down on your hands and knees to push a peanut with your nose from Montreal to Anaheim to close the deal. You guys were the guys who thought that Caufield might just turn out to be a bust, not us, and there were many ACGMs flogging him around the League; I don't recall any of us Ducks guys suggesting that you should give up on Caufield any more than we were or are about to give up on Comtois. Times change, people change. Coaching changes. Right now, any movement of Caufield would be just as ill-conceived as any move of Comtois.

    The "disappointing youngsters" was tongue-in-cheek because to evaluate Comtois as worth no more than Poehling is idiotic.

    Finally, if Caufield has been able to get his career back on track, why can't Comtois?
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 31
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    Quoting: Finski
    So from what I understood Chiarot had a good game in CLGY, but that does not erase a bad season... Rangers decline.


    What you should atleast have the guts to awknowledge at the Very mininum is he's had a good couple weeks not a single game
    If you want to say no , say no
    But dont be a Schmuck and try to undermine a players success so you can feel less foolish
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 34
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    Rather see the Rangers trade for de Hann. Much cheaper to get and just as good. That's if they add a defender at all.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Because three months ago, if we had offered you Comtois for Caufield, you guys would have gotten down on your hands and knees to push a peanut with your nose from Montreal to Anaheim to close the deal. You guys were the guys who thought that Caufield might just turn out to be a bust, not us, and there were many ACGMs flogging him around the League; I don't recall any of us Ducks guys suggesting that you should give up on Caufield any more than we were or are about to give up on Comtois. Times change, people change. Coaching changes. Right now, any movement of Caufield would be just as ill-conceived as any move of Comtois.

    Finally, if Caufield has been able to get his career back on track, why can't Comtois?


    No and im not sure when you became so loose with the Facts
    But it deffinately lost you some Credibility in my books
    Agree or Disagree with Trades i always found we've had a fairly intelligent discussion especially
    When it comes down to hammering down value with trades rather then just saying No to every post you go on 15-20 times a day like a lot of these guys

    But this revisionist history has me rethinking things
    Caufield Struggled but he came out the NCAA to quiet literally help lead the habs to their first SCF since 1993
    IF you think we would sell him period you've on drugs
    If you think we would beg like we kinda are with Petry
    Then you're just flat out wrong in every sense of the word
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 35
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    Because three months ago, if we had offered you Comtois for Caufield, you guys would have gotten down on your hands and knees to push a peanut with your nose from Montreal to Anaheim to close the deal. You guys were the guys who thought that Caufield might just turn out to be a bust, not us, and there were many ACGMs flogging him around the League; I don't recall any of us Ducks guys suggesting that you should give up on Caufield any more than we were or are about to give up on Comtois. Times change, people change. Coaching changes. Right now, any movement of Caufield would be just as ill-conceived as any move of Comtois.


    What? I don't recall any Habs fans willing to give up on Caufield after 20 NHL games? It was mostly non-Habs fans throwing the idea around while ignoring the context of his lack of production. He gets more attention and criticism because he gets more coverage than other prospects, but people forget that he's literally a 21-year-old rookie on pace for 45 points while being misused for most of the season.
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    Quoting: Billy739
    What you should atleast have the guts to awknowledge at the Very mininum is he's had a good couple weeks not a single game
    If you want to say no , say no
    But dont be a Schmuck and try to undermine a players success so you can feel less foolish


    HAHAHA I believe you misunderstood me, Chiarot was the man to get a few years back, but now he feels washed out, tired, overplayed, and just overwhelmed... I understand that Chiarot has a name attached to him, but that name is a few years back, and he is not worth a 1st, he could be worth a 2nd and a 4th or something around that.
    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 37
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    Quoting: delneggs
    Rather see the Rangers trade for de Hann. Much cheaper to get and just as good. That's if they add a defender at all.


    Thats one of the best answers i've gotten so far
    Thanks for that

    Chiarot i agree doesnt make a ton of sense
    I just keep hearing them link NYR into the trades
    It seems atleast the STL link they made is true as i've heard STL fan say they need to move out Scandella and upgrade him
    I think i found Chiarot a home lol
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    10 mars 2022 à 17 h 38
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    HAHAHA I believe you misunderstood me, Chiarot was the man to get a few years back, but now he feels washed out, tired, overplayed, and just overwhelmed... I understand that Chiarot has a name attached to him, but that name is a few years back, and he is not worth a 1st, he could be worth a 2nd and a 4th or something around that.


    No i understood your post
    Its why i made my reply back
    Which you clearly didnt get

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