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Correcting a TOR trade

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Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 20 févr. 2022
Publié: 20 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Now trade one of AJ or TT.

Big upgrade in G. Downgrade on D. Big upgrade on O
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
76 500 000 $
31 250 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
23 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
67 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
56 000 000 $
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NJD
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Liljegren, Timothy [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Severson, Damon (2 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Tor fans love to package Holl to dump his cap and want Sevs at 50%. Guess what, that’s getting him for $0.

The Muzzin trade was 1 + 2 ok prospects, no retention. I’d ask for more but this is totally reasonable.
2.
NJD
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
VAN
  1. Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
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20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 18
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Leafs don't want or need Severson after watching him play against the Leafs, he's another Jake Gardiner. You're also not getting that package for a rental
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20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 20
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs don't want or need Severson after watching him play against the Leafs, he's another Jake Gardiner. You're also not getting that package for a rental


I watched Marner in the playoffs against the Canadiens
Absolutely awful. Worst contract in the league
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 22
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Think looks pretty solid. Could even add Holl to VAN if they wanted him. And if we are stealing Campbell, maybe leafs would want Blackwood or Bernier.

My first choice would be the Dave Reid package.
Second choice, extending Severson
Third choice, something along these lines.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: Devil
I watched Marner in the playoffs against the Canadiens
Absolutely awful. Worst contract in the league


The funny thing is, half of that dudes arguments hinge on that very same logic
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20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs don't want or need Severson after watching him play against the Leafs, he's another Jake Gardiner. You're also not getting that package for a rental


Best way to assess a player?
1. How they looked on TV in last game vs Leafs
2. Everything else
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20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 28
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I think the Canucks would have to take that deal- assuming their able to sign Miller (keeping both Miller and Boeser would be difficult without shedding salary somewhere else). Boesers average skating, turnovers and inconsistency worry me, might never reach his full potential, which would be 40+ goals/yr. Anyone signing him to 7mil+ long term might regret it.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 30
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Jack Campbell let in 5 goals last night. Leafs should be able to sign him for 2 million.

In all seriousness this post is fair value. But I don’t want the leafs to make a deal such as this.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 30
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Yeah, no chance the Leafs do that. They don't really need Severson at this point cause he's not what we're looking for. Liljegren is projected to be our top 4 rd in a year or two and while he hasn't looked great in a top 4 role he's been great in a bottom-pairing role with sandin. For his first year I'll take it. Severson just won't fit what the leafs are looking for. Giving up a 1st, your future 2nd pairing dman, and holl who while hasn't been great this season could easily rebound next season considering how well he played last season. If I'm really giving up that many assets I'd go for a legit difference making d-man who'd perform very well in the playoffs.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: EEEEE15
. If I'm really giving up that many assets I'd go for a legit difference making d-man who'd perform very well in the playoffs.


I know just the guy.

A prime time playoff performer (0.65 ppg in nearly 100 playoff games), Right-shot, Physical, Norris trophy-winning, stud, whose cap hit after retention is de minimus.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I know just the guy.

A prime time playoff performer (0.65 ppg in nearly 100 playoff games), Right-shot, Physical, Norris trophy-winning, stud, whose cap hit after retention is de minimus.


Don't you dare say it!!!
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 50
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Hard reasonable at all. Holl and Liljegren are NHL Dmen and you want a first and second for a middling NHLer at 4m.
Check would the Leafs gave for Muzzin. Wasn't close your ask at all.
So many Devils fan seem upset that the Leafs didn't acquire Severson. If he so valuable, don't you think other teams would be interested in him? Apparently not if CF posts are any indication.
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs don't want or need Severson after watching him play against the Leafs, he's another Jake Gardiner. You're also not getting that package for a rental


Agree with you about the Leafs not needing Severson at all. Those two Leafs games, I almost think Severson was telling the Leafs (and other playoff contenders). " Don't trade for me, I'm lousy. I'd rather be golfing at the end of regular season".
20 févr. 2022 à 14 h 59
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Don't you dare say it!!!


Dave Reid said it would cost the Leafs a 1st, a prospect and more. But he can be had for half that.
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 1
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Dave Reid said it would cost the Leafs a 1st, a prospect and more. But he can be had for half that.


NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT!
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 10
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Hard reasonable at all. Holl and Liljegren are NHL Dmen and you want a first and second for a middling NHLer at 4m.
Check would the Leafs gave for Muzzin. Wasn't close your ask at all.
So many Devils fan seem upset that the Leafs didn't acquire Severson. If he so valuable, don't you think other teams would be interested in him? Apparently not if CF posts are any indication.



The Devils are not selling Severson.
Devils fans do not want to sell Severson.
There are no rumors, no one is talking about it.
Only in the isolated bubble of Leafland have Severson trades surfaced.
This whole thing is 100% a Leaf blogger/podcaster/reporter circular loop of nonsense.

Then to say, “see, no one else wants him” is exactly what we (in real world) expect the Leafmob to say.
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20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: MrDinkiee
Leafs don't want or need Severson after watching him play against the Leafs, he's another Jake Gardiner. You're also not getting that package for a rental


I think the funniest thing about this post is the fact that Toronto coaches and Toronto management absolutely loved Jake Gardiner. They woulda loved to keep him but they couldn’t make the cap work - so how you’re speaking for an entire organization fools me. Definitely says your username suits you
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 15
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The Devils are not selling Severson.
Devils fans do not want to sell Severson.
There are no rumors, no one is talking about it.
Only in the isolated bubble of Leafland have Severson trades surfaced.
This whole thing is 100% a Leaf blogger/podcaster/reporter circular loop of nonsense.

Then to say, “see, no one else wants him” is exactly what we (in real world) expect the Leafmob to say.


Devil fans or any other fan base don't seem make any proposals for Severson...except to the Leafs. Severson's trade value is the most right now...two playoff runs for some teams. Wait till next summer, it's only playoff run. And do you really think the Devils are going to be playoff contenders next season? I can't imagine why Severson wouldn't be on the trade block at some time.
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 16
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At the end of the day this offer doesn’t make sense for Toronto. Severson would fit their system well (as much as I hate to admit it) but giving up 2 NHL defenceman and only getting 1 back does nothing but hurt them for a long playoff run. Just doesn’t suit them as an organization.

Now is Toronto calling about Severson? I highly believe so and I think a deal can get done. Something I proposed on here makes sense for both sides and could be done by the deadline;

Devils get:
Rodion Amirov
Justin Holl
2022 2nd round pick (becomes a 1st if Toronto wins the cup this year)
Will Villeneuve

Toronto gets:
Damon Severson
2022 4th round pick

That’s a good price to pay for Severson and makes sense from both sides. If something gets done around the idea of Amirov and a conditional pick for Severson, I wouldn’t at all be shocked.
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Devil fans or any other fan base don't seem make any proposals for Severson...except to the Leafs. Severson's trade value is the most right now...two playoff runs for some teams. Wait till next summer, it's only playoff run. And do you really think the Devils are going to be playoff contenders next season? I can't imagine why Severson wouldn't be on the trade block at some time.


He is a core piece.
Our longest-tenured Devil.
And someone we expect they will extend.
We honestly don’t think about it as much as you all do.
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: palhal
Devil fans or any other fan base don't seem make any proposals for Severson...except to the Leafs. Severson's trade value is the most right now...two playoff runs for some teams. Wait till next summer, it's only playoff run. And do you really think the Devils are going to be playoff contenders next season? I can't imagine why Severson wouldn't be on the trade block at some time.


Smart Devils fans don’t want to trade Severson
It’s mostly Leaf fans that want him
Along with fans from other teams like the Canucks, Oilers, etc
20 févr. 2022 à 15 h 35
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He is a core piece.
Our longest-tenured Devil.
And someone we expect they will extend.
We honestly don’t think about it as much as you all do.


I don't think much at all about Severson, except when I read the silly trades to the Leafs. Some Leafs fans and all Devil fans seem infatuated with him.
20 févr. 2022 à 16 h 18
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I don't think Vancouver makes this trade. I don't think Boesers value is massive, especially with his QA but the 1st is a late round pick, I think there will be better offers.
20 févr. 2022 à 16 h 30
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I don’t want Holl at all. The point was that If you’re dumping a D and replacing him with a much better one at net-zero cap, that deal is way more expensive than Muzzins

And you’re getting 2 playoff runs, he’s not a rental.
20 févr. 2022 à 17 h 9
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1st Severson is not Muzzin. Like not in the slightest.

2nd Muzzin wasn’t a UFA.

3rd did I mention Severson is not as good as Muzzin? Definitely not in his prime anyway when Muzzin was acquired
 
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