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Créé par: GloveSideHockey
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 18 févr. 2022
Publié: 18 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. Drouin, Jonathan (1 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Hájek, Libor
  3. Robertson, Matthew
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
2.
BOS
  1. Hunt, Dryden
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 328 969 $0 $7 950 000 $2 171 031 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 675 000 $3 675 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 23
#1
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"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.
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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 26
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Quoting: justaBoss
"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.

Lol typical habs fans eh
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 30
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Geez, what is going on here? The New York Underperformers?
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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 30
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How good is hunt? I haven't watched many rangers games so idk but trade seems decently fair.
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: aecliptic
Geez, what is going on here? The New York Underperformers?


5 on 5 performance, depth scoring (specifically c), and reliable depth d. If you were a realist and watched our teams games, you’d understand that those have been our needs all year.
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 34
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Quoting: Schood1c
How good is hunt? I haven't watched many rangers games so idk but trade seems decently fair.

Quick and gritty. Similar to debrusk but less offensive upside. He’d fit in well with you guys especially if you look for scoring depth elsewhere at the TDL.
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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 39
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Quoting: Christiansilvestri
Lol typical habs fans eh


Quoting: justaBoss
"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.


Problem is not the value its that the package does not meet the positional needs of Montreal. We would rather add for something we need than trade players for something we don't need which is exactly what's going on here. Until Rangers fans understand that Montreal is too deep at LD and RW to consider trading for those positions, there will be a disconnect among the fan bases.
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 40
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Last thing BOS needs is another 25+ year old bottom 6 forward, while it’s probably fair value I’d rather just keep JD, bruins have the money to resign him anyways.

I’d be willing to talk Kravtsov to BOS for JD and pick
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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 48
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Rangers have no desire or the cap for a 4.25m Drouin this year or next.
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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 52
#10
You know nothing JS
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Quoting: justaBoss
"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.


As a Habs fan, take out Robertson and the 5th and we still accept.
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 55
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I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 55
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Drouin shouldn't play center
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18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th


Chiarot gets what? He's worth a 2nd max.
18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 58
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Chiarot gets what? He's worth a 2nd max.


I said he GETS a 1st + 3rd, because he WILL get that, (BTW leafs are frontrunners to give that to the habs for him!)
All Habs fans would agree he's WORTH 2nd + 4th, but he will get 1st + 3rd, no matter what fans say.
18 févr. 2022 à 17 h 23
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Boston passes on that. Plenty of options they’d be interested in. That’s not it.
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18 févr. 2022 à 17 h 45
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No idea what Drouin's value is, but it looks close enough.

Quoting: Christiansilvestri
5 on 5 performance, depth scoring (specifically c), and reliable depth d. If you were a realist and watched our teams games, you’d understand that those have been our needs all year.


...I'm not sure how adding DeBrusk and Drouin (as a center?) help with 5 on 5 performance or depth scoring at C, but ok.
18 févr. 2022 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: Christiansilvestri
5 on 5 performance, depth scoring (specifically c), and reliable depth d. If you were a realist and watched our teams games, you’d understand that those have been our needs all year.


Im very much a realist. However these are absolutey not the players I would be targeting. Andrew Copp and Calle Jarnkrok are who we should be targeting for the 3rd line.
18 févr. 2022 à 17 h 53
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@Christiansilvestri this is my TDL playoff push squad. Giroux (or Pavelski) would be a luxury. For an inexpensive top 6 guy, with reluctance, I wouldnt be opposed to Kessel. Guy has playoff and SC pedigree.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/edit/3044248
18 févr. 2022 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th

Lol
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18 févr. 2022 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: Burnout
No idea what Drouin's value is, but it looks close enough.
Drouins offensive upside. We can’t score 5 v 5. Having him and it doesn’t have to be a centre position, would help with that. He performs in the playoffs as well.


...I'm not sure how adding DeBrusk and Drouin (as a center?) help with 5 on 5 performance or depth scoring at C, but ok.
18 févr. 2022 à 18 h 15
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Quoting: aecliptic
Christiansilvestri this is my TDL playoff push squad. Giroux (or Pavelski) would be a luxury. For an inexpensive top 6 guy, with reluctance, I wouldnt be opposed to Kessel. Guy has playoff and SC pedigree.
Kessels not a bad idea but I think the bidding war would be too high for giroux. I’ll have a look tho.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/edit/3044248
18 févr. 2022 à 18 h 17
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Quoting: Burnout
No idea what Drouin's value is, but it looks close enough.

...I'm not sure how adding DeBrusk and Drouin (as a center?) help with 5 on 5 performance or depth scoring at C, but ok.


To be fair, 16 of Drouin's 20 points are even strength. He is only a C in a pinch however.
18 févr. 2022 à 18 h 26
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Quoting: Christiansilvestri
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Its worth kicking tires on Giroux and Pavelski, but I have a hard stance to avoid any and all bidding wars. Its unnecessary.
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18 févr. 2022 à 19 h 47
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Quoting: justaBoss
"Drop the fluff. Chiarot will cost you Lundkvist+3rd and Drouin will cost you Lafreniere."

- is what I'm expecting to hear as advice here.


this is a perfect representation of habs fans
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18 févr. 2022 à 22 h 2
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I'll break this up:
Chiarot gets 1st + 3rd
Drouin would get Berard + Kravtsov + 4th


Tons of futures for average rental and a major dump.
We are all blushing for you.
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