boston says no to vancouver and ottawa says no to boston

No thanks

Ott offers Zaitzev instead

Ottawa isn't in a position to trade Zub. They need him if they want to continue to improve, they're absolutely not gonna deal him just to deal him.

Zboril is going to be a Group 6 UFA this year and seeing that he's out of the season, he holds little to no value in the trade market

I dont even think this is relatively close for Zub

Vancouver also says no to Boston so the deal really isn’t happening I guess

that is false vancouver doesn't say no they have a very desperate need for a top 4 dman especially a RHD, not to mention carlo is on a very good contract where as boeser is about to ask for 7+ mill and that is gonna screw over van as they have cap problems and will for the next 3 years.

the reason why boeser, garland, miller are even on the trade block is because vancouver management literally said they are looking to gain more cap as it is a big need
but those 3 are the only big cap players that are movable without van either getting low balled on value or having to pay

hamonic, myers, poolman, OEL etc will all get pennies to the dollar in terms of value

You’re just making things up. That’s not the Canucks direction at all.

In an interview with bob McCowan, Rutherford shot down the idea that they are shopping too players. He said there Might be some changes to clean up the cap, but don't expect top players to be moved. Don't jump to conclusions.

In that same interview, he said Rumors are rumors, not necessarily going to trade one of our top end players; GMs are calling asking about players.

This indicates they are NOT shopping Boeser, merely listening to offers.

Canucks trading Boeser for a worse player does not make sense, even if Carlo fits a positional need and has a good contract.

I’m an interview with daily faceoff, Rutherford said “ Well, we’re in a position that we don’t have to feel any pressure this year because we don’t have top players where they’re going to be UFAs. So there’s no urgency here to make those kinds of decisions. Our decisions will be made step by step as to what we think is best for the franchise now and in the future.”

They do not feel pressure to make a losing trade simply for cap/positional reasons. There are other ways to fix the roster without giving up their top RW.

can we interest you in Zaitsev, plays physical, scores on his own net, stellar defender.

They have to re sign hoglander,boeser, Miller, horvat, motte and rathbone all in the next 2 years all who will want raises for sure. Vancouver has only 2 contracts that don’t need to be resigned that are over 2.5 mill which are luongo recapture fee and hamonic. They are already over cap if hamonic and sutter weren’t on LTIR right now Van has some bad cap issues coming soon I did the math and van frees up about 34 mill worth of cap freeing the next 2 offseasons with many key players if they all get what they are projected too it leaves Van with about 5 mill to fill a lot of big wholes like 2 top 4 dmen on the right side and forward depth. Van also doesn’t have the strongest prospect pool, now that rathbone and podkolzin have basically graded to the NHL they don’t really have any players in the systems that can fill the holes they need for cheap

They can easily re-sign all expiring players over the next 2 years. The difficult think right now is making the roster better. Trading away Boeser does not make the roster better so why would you do it?

They should be looking to trade away players like Dickinson, Hamonic, Poolman, Myers, Halak, and pearson

that's what im saying though is yes you will be able to re-sign everyone but you have almost no cap to improve the team and van still has a few big holes to fill.

myers and poolman's contracts i don't see being moveable till the final year of their contract, hamonic also is probably a hard contract to move aswell. Pearson's contract is definitely moveable, halak i doubt is moved he won't waive his NMC and dickinson is also a moveable contract

You can’t improve the team if you are trading away your best players.

Either they rebuild, which doesn’t improve the team immodestly but also cap space doesn’t matter, or they try and get better by getting rid of bad money.

Trading Boeser for Carlo accomplishes neither

yes it does they acquire a top 4 RHD which they desperately need while also saving cap as carlo makes 4.1 mill and boeser will be getting most likely 7 mill in his contract extension, boeser also plays RW which van has depth in garland, podklozin, and klimovich

that looks like 3 postives for van they replace a position of depth for a position of need while saving cap.

boston says no anyways as we don't need to move for a RW at the cost of carlo

Trading Boeser for Carlo makes the team worse. Doesn’t matter if you save some cap because you’re getting the worse player. It’s like saying Toronto should trade nylander for Carlo to save cap space. It doesn’t make sense as it makes the team worse.

If you’re going to trade Boeser for cap space, it should for picks and prospects. If you’re going to trade him to make the team better, you need to get a player back who is as good or better.

Vancouver can easily get themselves out of cap trouble, they aren't inclined to trade any of Boeser, Garland, or Miller unless it's an overpay

how do they easily get themselves out of cap trouble? no one is taking poolman or myers contract you can move hamonic possibly and pearson or dickinson but then you are just throwing away all your depth which van already struggles with

Vancouver's depth is pretty good as it is and is easy to replace, there will absolutely be takers for Myers and Poolman. It's not going to be that hard, Patrik Allvin already came out and said he isn't in any rush to do anything

sorry but myers sucks no one is taking on his 6mill contract for 3 years. Van can not afford to retain what a team would want which is 30-50% because he is not worth more then 4 mill.

poolman aswell is not worth 2.5 mill he should have bee signed for around 1-1.75 mill poolman is the equivalence almost of john moore when bruins signed him 4yrs 2.75 mill and now look how hard it has been for them to move him

you are actually delusional though if you think someone will take myers contract for 3 years. you would have to pay for someone to take that, you only start to get positive value once the contract is down to 3-4 mill

No, no, no, no, no, no, you are being so bloody ignorant of how well Myers is playing this season, he's been good enough to actually warrant the argument of having positive trade value

What the hell? How do you know the Canucks are even trying to move Poolman? He's been a solid 3rd pair defender this season. Sure, his contract is a bit much for what he does, but another team in need of depth and has cap space could easily stomach that contract for a miniscule price

I'm not delusional, you're just making accusations based on preexisting reputations, but you don't consider even for a second that maybe those reputations may be outdated

Vancouver will be fine, they have a far more competent management group who is in no rush to do anything, and as long as they don't feel rushed, that will allow themselves to work some extraordinary but timely magic this trade deadline