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Prospects over picks

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2022
Publié: 31 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
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FLA
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
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MTL
  1. Pelletier, Jakob
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
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TBL
  1. Paquette, Cédric
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (STL)
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MTL
  1. Afanasyev, Egor
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
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CAR
  1. Petry, Jeff (2 200 000 $ retained)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (STL)
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MTL
  1. Senyshyn, Zach
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
BOS
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MTL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 15
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How do you guys keeps getting worse at this??
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31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 17
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Hard pass from NYR.
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31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 21
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Canes won’t consider that. Considering Petry’s age and absolute albatross if a contract, Canes are not the right place to be looking to dump him. And you won’t draw Drury trying to dump him either. NYR and Florida hard pass on those. Same goes for Calgary. I don’t think EDM would consider that trade. Wideman and Dauphin getting those might be a stretch. And that Boston trade, good look even getting a phone call started between the 2 clubs.
31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 23
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Flames don't consider that

Pelletier > Toffoli
31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 25
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Why are you swapping firsts with Arizona
31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 32
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Habs reject all except tampa and colorado
31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 34
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Why are you swapping firsts with Arizona


The 1st round pick is conditional from the Dvorak trade. Based on this year, montreal will keep their own first round pick and Arizona will be getting the Carolina pick. Cap Friendly just currently has Montreal with the Carolina pick and Arizona with the Montreal pick but that will not play out.

So the poster of this thread was just fixing the inevitable.
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31 janv. 2022 à 20 h 37
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The 1st round pick is conditional from the Dvorak trade. Based on this year, montreal will keep their own first round pick and Arizona will be getting the Carolina pick. Cap Friendly just currently has Montreal with the Carolina pick and Arizona with the Montreal pick but that will not play out.

So the poster of this thread was just fixing the inevitable.


Gotcha. Thanks.
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Flames don't consider that

Pelletier > Toffoli


You mean the guy that hasn't even played an NHL game yet is better than Toffoli? Give your head a shake.
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Habs reject all except tampa and colorado


Why?
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Canes won’t consider that. Considering Petry’s age and absolute albatross if a contract, Canes are not the right place to be looking to dump him. And you won’t draw Drury trying to dump him either. NYR and Florida hard pass on those. Same goes for Calgary. I don’t think EDM would consider that trade. Wideman and Dauphin getting those might be a stretch. And that Boston trade, good look even getting a phone call started between the 2 clubs.


Wow you're a Canes fan? You hear sometimes that you guys exist but until you actually see it with your own two eyes...
1 févr. 2022 à 9 h 30
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You mean the guy that hasn't even played an NHL game yet is better than Toffoli? Give your head a shake.


Is he a better player right now? No, but he could be a better player as soon as next year. His value is definitely higher, he's still got 3 ELC years left and is dominant in the AHL as a rookie.

Would you trade Caufield for Coleman? Basically the same concept
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How do you guys keeps getting worse at this??


With practice in self deprecation.
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Is he a better player right now? No, but he could be a better player as soon as next year. His value is definitely higher, he's still got 3 ELC years left and is dominant in the AHL as a rookie.

Would you trade Caufield for Coleman? Basically the same concept


Now you're comparing Toffoli to Coleman. Not questioning Pelletier here, questioning how little you apparently value Toffoli.
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Now you're comparing Toffoli to Coleman. Not questioning Pelletier here, questioning how little you apparently value Toffoli.


They are near identical at 5v5. You clearly undervalue Coleman if you think otherwise
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Wow you're a Canes fan? You hear sometimes that you guys exist but until you actually see it with your own two eyes...


And that is supposed to mean, what exactly? I mean, is it really a stretch for people to cheer for the Canes?
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And that is supposed to mean, what exactly? I mean, is it really a stretch for people to cheer for the Canes?


It's just a little light razzing.
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Why?




If lehkonen gets traded he is going to get a 1st and 2nd at the deadline, I guarantee it. Therefore schneider could substitute for the 1st, but Montreal has to give the 3rd? No it should be something like schneider and kravtsov for lehkonen and 4th.

Ben chiarot will get a 1st and 3rd, but since we would be traded inside our division, the price would be a 1st and 2nd. Therefore you can substitute denisenko for a 2nd, but then montreal gives up a 3rd? No. It should be 1st and denisenko for chiarot and 4th.

If we trade toffoli the price would be a 1st, a 1st round caliber prospect, and a 2nd/ 2nd round caliber prospect. Therefore you can substitute pelltier for the 1st round caliber prospect, and the 2nd for a 2nd, but that's it? No. You would have to add a 1st. The trade would be toffoli for 1st, pelltier, and 2nd

If we trade Allen it would be for a 3rd, a B prospect. Kulak will fetch a 4th or 5th. Savoie could substitute for the B prospect, we don't need / want Samaroukov therefore his value to us is worth nothing. Turris is a cap dump he is worth nothing to us. Therefore you're practically trading Allen and kulak for savoie. Therefore you have to add a 3rd and 4th. The trade would be Allen and kulak for savoie turris, 3rd and 4th.

If we trade drouin ot would be at this deadline a 1st and 3rd. Therefore the trade would be since afanasyav is a 2nd round caliber , the trade would be afanasyav, 2nd and 3rd.

Gardiner is a cap dump and will be on LTIR, therefore he has no value to us, Drury is a 2nd round caliber prospect, and petry should fetch a pair of 2nds. So the trade would be petry for Drury, gardiner and a 2nd.

The Wideman trade is fair.

Harris is a throw in for every deal so he has the same value as seneshyn, perrault will get a 5th so the trade would be the same except for the 7th switch to a 5th. But I rather trade Harris in a bigger trade where he would up the value.
 
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