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16 janv. 2022 à 10 h 59
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you'd have to pay colorado to take that contract
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16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 2
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you'd have to pay colorado to take that contract


Yeah maybe you might be right!! But I highly doubt you are. Pretty sure every GM of a playoff team would pay to add Anderson to their roster. But thanks for dropping your highly respected opinionwink
16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 5
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Yeah maybe you might be right!! But I highly doubt you are. Pretty sure every GM of a playoff team would pay to add Anderson to their roster. But thanks for dropping your highly respected opinionwink


yeah, i mean gms love guys who have never had 50 points ever, are past scoring prime and make 5 mill a year for the next 5 seasons after this and also suck at defending. Great contract for sure
16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 7
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avs are not touching that trade,

seriously 2 of the teams top prospects for a bad contract? Anderson isnt even out producing JT compher, who you think the avs need to add to of their best prospects to swap him out for....yeah thats a massive No

Frankie and Allen, there is 0 upgrade in net there
Paquette is a bad 4th liner

avs get worse here and the cap is a real thing, they take on so much more cap with 0 improvements
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16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yeah, i mean gms love guys who have never had 50 points ever, are past scoring prime and make 5 mill a year for the next 5 seasons after this and also suck at defending. Great contract for sure


Way worse contracts out there. Tyler sequin Jamie been
Jeff skinner Josh. Bailey pageau etc and the list goes on and on seems like you r not up to speed on how nhlers are getting g paid now 5 million is about the right price for a 50 point winger that’s about the standard right now and will only continue in that trend moving forward. 30 goal scorers 60 point guys usually 6 mil + and the same for 70 point 7 mil + and so forth that’s basically the nhl pay scale now you can find some outliers yo that but the are one offs or having an odd great or and odd bad year
16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 13
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So many people who don’t understand the game of hockey and team identity and chemistry. You don’t ever trade players or for players based on production.
16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 15
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Way worse contracts out there. Tyler sequin Jamie been
Jeff skinner Josh. Bailey pageau etc and the list goes on and on seems like you r not up to speed on how nhlers are getting g paid now 5 million is about the right price for a 50 point winger that’s about the standard right now and will only continue in that trend moving forward. 30 goal scorers 60 point guys usually 6 mil + and the same for 70 point 7 mil + and so forth that’s basically the nhl pay scale now you can find some outliers yo that but the are one offs or having an odd great or and odd bad year


just because there are worse contracts doesnt mean that andersons is remotly good. And i am very aware of how NHL players are paid, 5 mill gets you a 50 point winger, but Anderson literally has never had 50 points. The guy has one season with more than 30 and he is at the age where players, especially physical ones who rely on skating start to decline. His contract is bad for a team that has cap space to play with. Colorado is not such a team
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16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 15
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So many people who don’t understand the game of hockey and team identity and chemistry. You don’t ever trade players or for players based on production.


yeah, team identity and chemistry are totally what you look for from a guy on the worst team in the league.
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16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 18
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So many people who don’t understand the game of hockey and team identity and chemistry. You don’t ever trade players or for players based on production.


so many people dont understand that there is a salary cap and when looking at trades, you can judge them solely on the value out of a player at a lesser hit.

Andersen hasn't even been an offensive upgrade over JT compher the past 3 years, while Compher PKs and can play C...Andersen hasn't played a lick of the PK. He is getting paid like a high end 2nd liner to produce bc hes not very good defensively but he produces at a 3rd line rate. That is not 5.5m worth

Compher is not a special player. but he does what Andersen does offensively for 2m cheaper, while playing the PK and on the 2nd unit PP. You get more mileage in the player at 3.5m vs 5.5m. Andersen hits more and is a better skater....yeah that isnt 2m worth investing in more of
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16 janv. 2022 à 12 h 7
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Straight across JTC/Frankie for Allen/Andersen this trade is not an upgrade for the Avs let alone adding the Av's best two non-nhl currently playing prospects. You are right, there are a lot of extras that go into trades other than just the stats. But you are showing your lack of "hockey understanding" if you think that this trade is even close to good for a contending team. Let's take that back and just say the Avs. It creates a higher cap hit for equal to less production. Not a plus. With as many over paid boat anchor contracts MTL has this should be a concept this fan base can understand. Rolls created by trade - 5 on5 and PP may improve, but looking at numbers which also do have meaning, that may or may not happen. BUT this does happen - they lose PK and positional versatility hit (JTC is a swiss army knife and slots top to bottom, effectively, wouldn't want to ride him for the season at 1 or 2C/wings, but if I remember right we went pretty close to undefeated during the stretch with Mack out.) Takes two welcomed and liked long term faces out of the locker room and replaces them with two new ones. There's that chemistry part that was mentioned, it just took a hit also. I know the argument is he has a higher ceiling and the what ifs... but at 27 that ceiling is pretty much set and it is not as high as we the fans would have hoped for him. But like Carey, if you over pay em... YOU gotta keep em.

In the end, the avs are over paying JTC to do what he does. Andersen would replace JTC. JTC is and has been better over the last few years. Joe says "I have an idea lets pay more for less." NO. And add... and they call us "mile high"
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16 janv. 2022 à 12 h 9
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Hard pass, we're not giving up our top prospects for Anderson, a back-up goalie, and a replacement forward.
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16 janv. 2022 à 12 h 12
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Let’s see Josh Anderson $5.5M due over per seasons over the next 6 seasons, on IR and has 40pts combined the last 3 seasons. Compher due $3.5M the next 2 seasons 61pts combined over the last 3 seasons. Yet somehow COL is adding their top d prospect top forward prospect? Leave to MTL fans to crazy overrate a guy that just can’t stay healthy and wasn’t anything special before that.
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Let’s see Josh Anderson $5.5M due over per seasons over the next 6 seasons, on IR and has 40pts combined the last 3 seasons. Compher due $3.5M the next 2 seasons 61pts combined over the last 3 seasons. Yet somehow COL is adding their top d prospect top forward prospect? Leave to MTL fans to crazy overrate a guy that just can’t stay healthy and wasn’t anything special before that.


How did he look in the playoffs last year especially conference finals ??? Anyways opinions are like A- Holes everybodys got one. Makati is my favourite player in the nhl and Mackinnon. Not far behind just hope they get to hoist a cup. But not if you guys were the GM they ain’t goi g to win ****. It’s too bad.
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so many people dont understand that there is a salary cap and when looking at trades, you can judge them solely on the value out of a player at a lesser hi
Andersen hasn't even been an offensive upgrade over JT compher the past 3 years, while Compher PKs and can play C...Andersen hasn't played a lick of the PK. He is getting paid like a high end 2nd liner to produce bc hes not very good defensively but he produces at a 3rd line rate. That is not 5.5m worth

Compher is not a special player. but he does what Andersen does offensively for 2m cheaper, while playing the PK and on the 2nd unit PP. You get more mileage in the player at 3.5m vs 5.5m. Andersen hits more and is a better skater....yeah that isnt 2m worth investing in more of


I only read articles from every time hockey outlet each day about teams wanting g Anderson and an Anderson type player. I’ve yet to read any about Compher but I’ll keep reading everyone everyday like I have for the last twenty years I’m sure their will be one about how there are multiple GMS Inquiring g about him and how great of addition he would be to their team and how they would love him Im sure there is articles out there about it I just haven’t seen one yet or ever!!
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Let’s see Josh Anderson $5.5M due over per seasons over the next 6 seasons, on IR and has 40pts combined the last 3 seasons. Compher due $3.5M the next 2 seasons 61pts combined over the last 3 seasons. Yet somehow COL is adding their top d prospect top forward prospect? Leave to MTL fans to crazy overrate a guy that just can’t stay healthy and wasn’t anything special before that.


Quoting: Xqb15a
Let’s see Josh Anderson $5.5M due over per seasons over the next 6 seasons, on IR and has 40pts combined the last 3 seasons. Compher due $3.5M the next 2 seasons 61pts combined over the last 3 seasons. Yet somehow COL is adding their top d prospect top forward prospect? Leave to MTL fans to crazy overrate a guy that just can’t stay healthy and wasn’t anything special before that.



27 goal scorer before injury one of the best power forward in the game. Best three years of hockey are his next three same as drouin. Don’t get caught sleeping
16 janv. 2022 à 16 h 50
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How did he look in the playoffs last year especially conference finals ??? Anyways opinions are like A- Holes everybodys got one. Maker is my favourite player in the nhl and Mackinnon. Not far behind just hope they get to joust a cup. But not if you guys were the GM they ain’t goi g to win ****. It’s too bad.


Because we wouldn’t do trades Sakic wouldn’t do? Tell me how an over paid, often injured low scoring winger who doesn’t kill penalties help them? The Avs have 2 legit concerns, the dumb pk system Nolan Pratt (and Bednar) continue to run, and is Kuemper really the answer? Andersson does nothing to address those yet somehow him a 2nd goalie, and 4th liner are worth the Avs top 2 prospects a Swiss army middle 6 forward who produces more than Anderson and Francouz who is healthy. That is a complete and total rip off.
16 janv. 2022 à 16 h 57
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27 goal scorer before injury one of the best power forward in the game. Best three years of hockey are his next three same as drouin. Don’t get caught sleeping


That’s funny. 27 goals one time no other 20 goal seasons, has played a full season ONE time, and you’re telling me his next 3 seasons are going to be his best as he pushes 30? I mean if you and all the MTL fans believed all the BS about how great their guys are going to be why not just keep them get a high draft pick and roll with Price, Andersson and Drouin with the added talent? Andersson’s contract is a nightmare that MTL is beginning to experience and has only 5 more years to love it.
16 janv. 2022 à 16 h 58
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I only read articles from every time hockey outlet each day about teams wanting g Anderson and an Anderson type player. I’ve yet to read any about Compher but I’ll keep reading everyone everyday like I have for the last twenty years I’m sure their will be one about how there are multiple GMS Inquiring g about him and how great of addition he would be to their team and how they would love him Im sure there is articles out there about it I just haven’t seen one yet or ever!!


You are missing the point entirely
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That’s funny. 27 goals one time no other 20 goal seasons, has played a full season ONE time, and you’re telling me his next 3 seasons are going to be his best as he pushes 30? I mean if you and all the MTL fans believed all the BS about how great their guys are going to be why not just keep them get a high draft pick and roll with Price, Andersson and Drouin with the added talent? Andersson’s contract is a nightmare that MTL is beginning to experience and has only 5 more years to love it.


Same age as mackinnon. There is way more worse contracts in the league I listed a handful of them earlier. And I would keep all of them except maybe Hoffman Arimia wideman kulak. Other then that I’m cool with this real we absolutely steam rolled powerhouse stacked teams like Winnipeg and Vegas Toronto.last year in the playoffs. I made an absolute fortune on the habs last playoffs. Well do the same next year with basically this team. But the short offseason injuries and new players adjusting crippled us out of the gate. But it’s good we are set up nicely this trade was to help the avs. Ecause I would love to see them win I just ordered my makar jersey. But hey good luck!! I’m rooting for the avs Either way let’s go!!
16 janv. 2022 à 17 h 2
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I'll temper what most of the Avs fans are saying by this.....The Avs should be interested in a fully fit Anderson at the right price.......and then to back up the opinions of other Avs fans......that is most definitely not it. Way too much.
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16 janv. 2022 à 17 h 6
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Same age as mackinnon. There is way more worse contracts in the league I listed a handful of them earlier.


So now we are making things up MacKinnon is 26 won’t be 27 until next season, Anderson turns 28 before the end of the season. How is that the same age, also you’re not really trying to draw a correlation between the two are you? MacKinnon has always been healthy minus the occasional dings and Covid.
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You are missing the point entirely


No the point is when you window is now you do not worry about prospects that may make it or won’t you go for it you stack your roster and you fkn go for it stop wasting time. When them prospect are ready to compete. Mackinnon and landy are done kadri is gone burakosvy is too but dont listen to me I obviously don’t know what I’m talk ga bout
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So now we are making things up MacKinnon is 26 won’t be 27 until next season, Anderson turns 28 before the end of the season. How is that the same age, also you’re not really trying to draw a correlation between the two are you? MacKinnon has always been healthy minus the occasional dings and Covid.


Oh sorry I didn’t mean they were born the same day lol
Wow this is a special kind of stupid here. 26 27 28 all the same bro in the hockey world.
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No the point is when you window is now you do not worry about prospects that may make it or won’t you go for it you stack your roster and you fkn go for it stop wasting time. When them prospect are ready to compete. Mackinnon and landy are done kadri is gone burakosvy is too but dont listen to me I obviously don’t know what I’m talk ga bout


so bc its the avs window you want them to trade for a player they already get the same production out of in Compher, trade an NHL ready Dman in Barron, while taking on more cap which limits their ability for them to add to their depth

You really haven't thought this through....also where are all those articles that you read that all these NHL GMS, and the Avs specially want Anderson. Random Twitter posts from Montreal fans isnt news

If Andersen made 4m, there would be legitacemcity of adding him, but when you have a player in Tofolli who makes 4m and is the way better player than Anderson, why would teams trade the moon for the worse player with the over paid contract

Burakosvky will make 6m next year, he is so much better offensively than Anderson while being good defensively. Why would a team want the cap hit of Anderson who is the lesser player when they can just sign Bura to that aav and is the much better player

Do you see the point
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so bc its the avs window you want them to trade for a player they already get the same production out of in Compher, trade an NHL ready Dman in Barron, while taking on more cap which limits their ability for them to add to their depth

You really haven't thought this through....also where are all those articles that you read that all these NHL GMS, and the Avs specially want Anderson. Random Twitter posts from Montreal fans isnt news


It’s about trading for types of players that compliment other types of players on your team that will bro g a different element to your team. That’s why Gms love Anderson it what he bro had that dimension of size and speed which is the identity of the AVS JUST INCASE. you don’t understand your team. It’s what Anderson will bring to the table that compher doesn’t and what he will bro g out of each of your players that compher doesn’t. Like I said I’m rooti g for the avs just like Mackinnon said it’s my 9th season I’m sick of losing. But it’s your team! Go avs go
 
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