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The Gorton Saga

Créé par: Knuckl3s
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 3 janv. 2022
Publié: 3 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I think it's gonna be another busy one folks
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
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2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
21 200 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
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2800 000 $
33 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
34 000 000 $
32 250 000 $
2850 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
2.
MTL
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
3.
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (STL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (STL)
5.
MTL
SEA
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (STL)
6.
NYR
  1. Armia, Joel (1 700 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
7.
8.
TOR
  1. Savard, David
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
9.
MTL
OTT
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
10.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Allen, Jake (1 437 500 $ retained)
11.
SJS
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
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2024
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Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $77 066 249 $1 132 500 $1 270 000 $5 433 751 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
UFA - 1
850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
859 167 $859 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
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Infériorité numérique 1
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3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 3
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No way Canucks do that. Colorado can't afford that. I doubt Labanc is a cap dump.
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: Gmonwy
No way Canucks do that. Colorado can't afford that. I doubt Labanc is a cap dump.


K, lemme fix, but you sure Lebanc isn't a cap dump?
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 6
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Even with the 1st attached I wouldn't want Gallagher's contract
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 11
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Quoting: TheAlien
Even with the 1st attached I wouldn't want Gallagher's contract


Sent it elsewhere
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 11
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Wow this is all just bad for Montreal, Guhle and Norlinder would make the team before we traded for Doormat and Holl
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: Campabee
Wow this is all just bad for Montreal, Guhle and Norlinder would make the team before we traded for Doormat and Holl


Oh you really think they are going to be ready?
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 12
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Ottawa says "Thank you, Come again ".
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3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 16
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Oh you really think they are going to be ready?


Yes both will compete for a roster spot in the fall of 22
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 18
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Yes both will compete for a roster spot in the fall of 22


Here, I'll do this...
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 18
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Remove the 3rd from Montreal and replace Valimaki with a 2nd, then the deal is probably fair
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 19
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avs pass. do not want price.
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 20
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
avs pass. do not want price.


Not even with Salary retained?

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Remove the 3rd from Montreal and replace Valimaki with a 2nd, then the deal is probably fair


Hard to argue that value from Calgary's end when Valimaki is currently buried in the minors
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 21
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The worst part of this isn't even the low value you place on our current players, the worst part is that you traded everyone a way and made the team worse than the current version. Your top 2 lines are about the same maybe slightly better with Monahan but those bottom 6 and that D are so much worse its not even funny. And the goaltending would be worst in the league. There are so many holes in the lineup it would take the new GM 10-15 years just to fill them.

Edit The only 2 good peices on this D are Romanov and Valimaki
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 24
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Quoting: Campabee
The worst part of this isn't even the low value you place on our current players, the worst part is that you traded everyone a way and made the team worse than the current version. Your top 2 lines are about the same maybe slightly better with Monahan but those bottom 6 and that D are so much worse its not even funny. And the goaltending would be worst in the league. There are so many holes in the lineup it would take the new GM 10-15 years just to fill them.


Maybe you are overvaluing most of Montreal's players as oppose to me undervaluing them. You're right, this team isn't particularly deep but that's to be expected at the beginning of a rebuild, it doesn't look any worse off here than the current lineup of the team
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Not even with Salary retained?



Hard to argue that value from Calgary's end when Valimaki is currently buried in the minors


no. not even with salary retained.

1) even with habs maintaining 50% his contract is too long
2) his play in declining
3) he now has off ice issues to go with his one ice issues

the only plausible scenario is habs buy him out and avs sign a 1-2 year cheap deal.
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 28
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It's just a 3rd round pick, but Minnesota has zero need for wingers much less bottom line winger!
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Maybe you are overvaluing most of Montreal's players as oppose to me undervaluing them. You're right, this team isn't particularly deep but that's to be expected at the beginning of a rebuild, it doesn't look any worse off here than the current lineup of the team


Considering, guys like Freidman have said that the values of guys like Lehkonen and Allen is a 2nd and that Montreal could get a 1st + 3rd for Chiarot and Edmundson is a better D man, I would say your values are low. If Chiarot gets a 1st + 3rd Edmundson gets a 1st + 3rd + B/C prospect.
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 33
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the avs do not want a 34 year old 7m aav goalie, they dont want price at 5m, they dont want period. he hasn't been a league average goalie over the past 4 years. Even at 50% that is a bad contract for his on ice results.

If the avs wanted a goalie with that much term and cap hit, they would have just signed Grubauer,
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 36
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Quoting: Campabee
Considering, guys like Freidman have said that the values of guys like Lehkonen and Allen is a 2nd and that Montreal could get a 1st + 3rd for Chiarot and Edmundson is a better D man, I would say your values are low. If Chiarot gets a 1st + 3rd Edmundson gets a 1st + 3rd + B/C prospect.


Edmundson absolutely doesn't get a 1st, and I don't see how Allen or Lehkonen get 2nds, they are serviceable players, but no other team is giving the benefit of the doubt to really any of the Habs players with how the team has played this season

Quoting: GophersBenJ
It's just a 3rd round pick, but Minnesota has zero need for wingers much less bottom line winger!


I think Lehkonen would be a nice fit in Minny tbh
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 37
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the avs do not want a 34 year old 7m aav goalie, they dont want price at 5m, they dont want period. he hasn't been a league average goalie over the past 4 years. Even at 50% that is a bad contract for his on ice results.

If the avs wanted a goalie with that much term and cap hit, they would have just signed Grubauer,


I suppose that's a good point
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 40
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I suppose that's a good point


Avs would trade a 2nd and 3rd for a younger goalie they would take a shot on over a huge risk in Price....he hasn't even played a single minute in over 8months, why do we assume at 34 coming off major injuries and already decling that he is going to be magically good again?

If Avs were goign to give 6m aav to a over 35+ goalie, just offer it to MAF instead.
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 41
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Edmundson absolutely doesn't get a 1st, and I don't see how Allen or Lehkonen get 2nds, they are serviceable players, but no other team is giving the benefit of the doubt to really any of the Habs players with how the team has played this season



I think Lehkonen would be a nice fit in Minny tbh


Minnesota has zero room at all or need considering duhaime and bjustad or duhaime and rem are Minnesota 4th line back and fourth and Greenway with foligno, Matt boldy is getting called up to pair with Fiala and look like Rossi is getting called up alsp
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 42
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The Penguins have ZERO cap space.
3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 43
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Not even with Salary retained?



Hard to argue that value from Calgary's end when Valimaki is currently buried in the minors


Is he buried? He is 23, waiver exempt, and not playing any games on the main roster. This is not at all similar to someone like Thomas Hickey. He's been a point per game since being sent down too.

Your argument is kinda flawed too, are you trying to say Valimaki isn't worth much? In that case why would Montreal want him over the 2nd?
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3 janv. 2022 à 18 h 48
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Blues decline
 
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