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NYR - we want Schneider

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2021
Publié: 14 déc. 2021
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Hey NYR fans,

With your RHD side filled up for the next 5 years with Trouba and Fox at over 8M each - your LHD might need some extra love.

We have plenty of LHD prospect AND plenty of forward depth for your playoff push.

Can we make a deal... because our RHD is looking pretty sad with an aging Petry, Savard... and our top RHD prospect being a s3x offender.

We can take cap back as well.

Tell us, what can we offer :)

The trade below is probably not what you want - but lets start somewhere.

basically, anyone except Suzuki could be in.
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  1. Harris, Jordan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Norlinder, Mattias
  3. Toffoli, Tyler
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
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14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 21
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That's way too much to give up for a single prospect.
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14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 21
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some rangers fan is about to say they want caufield or suzuki for him LMAOOOO
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14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 24
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This is the nicest trade proposition I've ever seen, from the "smile" to overpaying for the other team's prospect
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14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: SevenLeg
That's way too much to give up for a single prospect.


way too much cap, yes.
14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 26
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way too much cap, yes.


Way too much everything, especially value.
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14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 27
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Quoting: Hockey247
some rangers fan is about to say they want caufield or suzuki for him LMAOOOO


Nah. Not good trading partners.

But Tofolli is too expensive, they dont need LHD prospects, and they dont need picks.

If you want to ship stuff to Vancouver and send us JT Miller or Horvat at 50%, we can talk.
14 déc. 2021 à 11 h 46
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brooo what is this
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14 déc. 2021 à 12 h 2
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Way too much everything, especially value.


All is pretty garbage except norlinder and the 1st being 3yrs away is dumb
14 déc. 2021 à 12 h 17
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
All is pretty garbage except norlinder and the 1st being 3yrs away is dumb


Garbage? Not at all.
Toffoli is worth a 1st+ from a contending team
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Harris is a better prospect than Norlinder and is arguably the best defenseman in the NCAA.
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Norlinder has top 4 OFD upside
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a 1st round pick

Not denying Schneider's potential, but the Habs stay far away from this offer.
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14 déc. 2021 à 12 h 20
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Toffoli for Schneider and a 2nd would be much closer valuewise but the Rags probably wouldn't be interested in another winger either. Though MAYBE they could be enticed by Dvorak for Schneider + 3rd or 4th as they do need a 2/3C but we would probably have to take back some cap as well.
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14 déc. 2021 à 12 h 57
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Everybody wants Schneider. Lol. If you aren’t willing to talk Zuki then don’t bother calling
14 déc. 2021 à 14 h 11
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Quoting: Josh
Nah. Not good trading partners.

But Tofolli is too expensive, they dont need LHD prospects, and they dont need picks.

If you want to ship stuff to Vancouver and send us JT Miller or Horvat at 50%, we can talk.


I agree with everything you said except Toffoli being expensive... Last summer he was "THE STEAL OF THE SUMMER", since then he was on pace for 30+ goals in a short season, career year, NHL Stanley Cup Finals... Now "too expensive"?
14 déc. 2021 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: RobbStark03
I agree with everything you said except Toffoli being expensive... Last summer he was "THE STEAL OF THE SUMMER", since then he was on pace for 30+ goals in a short season, career year, NHL Stanley Cup Finals... Now "too expensive"?


Rangers can't afford his cap hit next season. sooooo too expensive.
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14 déc. 2021 à 14 h 21
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Rangers can't afford his cap hit next season. sooooo too expensive.


Then its not a fit, the player is still on a great deal.
14 déc. 2021 à 14 h 48
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
Everybody wants Schneider. Lol. If you aren’t willing to talk Zuki then don’t bother calling


LMAO SUZUKI!!!! Lets talk Heiskenen for Norlinder then, if you want to be ridiculous! You are asking for an established top line center for a defensive prospect, NEVER going to happen!
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14 déc. 2021 à 15 h 23
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"NYR fans say untouchable" says everyone else, repeatedly, blah, blah...
Correct. BS fits like a glove, was a target, traded up to secure. Future RD: Fox BS Nils. Trouba on left for 1yr 24 szn, then traded afterwards, still only 31yrs old, @1/2, 2x4m! LD: KAM Robertson Jones. Troubas cap won't fit and will have to go.
Hence "he's not going anywhere". Yet, we all know he could be a complete bust lol. He's a big part of the puzzle, we're already missing pieces of the puzzle, we cannot move any of those core young D.
Toff more than 1yr is yuk to most teams & 2 lesser D prospects is not what we want
14 déc. 2021 à 15 h 34
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LMAO SUZUKI!!!! Lets talk Heiskenen for Norlinder then, if you want to be ridiculous! You are asking for an established top line center for a defensive prospect, NEVER going to happen!


I never said one for one. Lol. Calm down
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 4
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Quoting: Campabee
Toffoli for Schneider and a 2nd would be much closer valuewise but the Rags probably wouldn't be interested in another winger either. Though MAYBE they could be enticed by Dvorak for Schneider + 3rd or 4th as they do need a 2/3C but we would probably have to take back some cap as well.


Bet?
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
"NYR fans say untouchable" says everyone else, repeatedly, blah, blah...
Correct. BS fits like a glove, was a target, traded up to secure. Future RD: Fox BS Nils. Trouba on left for 1yr 24 szn, then traded afterwards, still only 31yrs old, 1/2, 2x4m! LD: KAM Robertson Jones. Troubas cap won't fit and will have to go.
Hence "he's not going anywhere". Yet, we all know he could be a complete bust lol. He's a big part of the puzzle, we're already missing pieces of the puzzle, we cannot move any of those core young D.
Toff more than 1yr is yuk to most teams & 2 lesser D prospects is not what we want


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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 10
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the trade is not perfect, I know - but I feel like it could be tweaked to make it work.

I read you need a 2C/3C, Dvorak could be available. If cap is a problem, we can fix that. I like what Gorton did with you rebuild... I hope he'll be able to pull the same thing with the habs

I'm happy that this post got a lot of discussion out of this forum smile
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 30
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
I never said one for one. Lol. Calm down


I am calm, I am just saying that Suzuki has way more value than Schneider at this point just like Heiskanen has way more value than Norlinder. A Schneider trade does not include Suzuki Dvorak for Schneider + 3rd or 4th is likely about fair value and IF NY really does look at a 2/3C would likely be all over that. I am not saying that NY should do it or that they want to move Schneider at all just that IF they were looking to upgrade to go into win now mode they would have to consider trading Schneider to upgrade other areas cause Fox and Trouba are not going anywhere right now. You trade positions of strength for positions of weakness and right now NY's strength I down the right side of their D.
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