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7th D Man

Créé par: jnowariak
Date de création initiale: 3 déc. 2021
Publié: 3 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
Send Addison down, pick up Claud to stop gap Spurg and figure out the Benn situation later. Could be another Pitlick style pick up.
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MIN
  1. Clague, Kale
LAK
    Waivers
    Rachats de contrats
    • Zach Parise: 2 371 794 $
    • Ryan Suter: 2 371 794 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    2024
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
    MIN
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    MIN
    MIN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $79 214 336 $0 $0 $2 285 664 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    MIN
    Kaprizov, Kirill
    9 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    MIN
    Eriksson Ek, Joel
    5 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
    MIN
    Zuccarello, Mats
    6 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Fiala, Kevin
    5 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Rask, Victor
    4 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Foligno, Marcus
    3 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Hartman, Ryan
    1 700 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
    MIN
    Greenway, Jordan
    2 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Gaudreau, Frédérick
    1 200 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Duhaime, Brandon
    750 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    MIN
    Pitlick, Rem
    917 831 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Bjugstad, Nick
    900 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Sturm, Nico
    725 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    MIN
    Brodin, Jonas
    6 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    MIN
    Dumba, Matt
    6 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Talbot, Cam
    3 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Goligoski, Alex
    5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    MIN
    Spurgeon, Jared
    7 575 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    MIN
    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    725 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    MIN
    Kulikov, Dmitry
    2 250 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MIN
    Merrill, Jon
    850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    LAK
    Clague, Kale
    761 250 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    MIN
    Benn, Jordie
    900 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1

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    3 déc. 2021 à 13 h 12
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    Clague is an offensively-minded puck moving defenseman that is fairly bad, if not terrible, at defense. He has played in 33 NHL games so far in his career and has yet to score a single goal. He does have the benefit of being able to play on both sides (most of his AHL career has been on the right side).

    You're welcome to take him if you want. As an LA fan, I won't be too sad if he gets claimed. He has been given numerous chances to solidify his spot in the lineup, and even with injuries to Doughty and Walker this season, hasn't been able to do so.
    3 déc. 2021 à 13 h 55
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    The development of Sean Durzi (who had a remarkable 5:35 PP Time on Ice in Saturday's game against Ottawa) has made Clague expendable, but I have a feeling that he still has upside and can be an NHL defenseman. Good luck!
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    3 déc. 2021 à 14 h 0
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Clague is an offensively-minded puck moving defenseman that is fairly bad, if not terrible, at defense. He has played in 33 NHL games so far in his career and has yet to score a single goal. He does have the benefit of being able to play on both sides (most of his AHL career has been on the right side).

    You're welcome to take him if you want. As an LA fan, I won't be too sad if he gets claimed. He has been given numerous chances to solidify his spot in the lineup, and even with injuries to Doughty and Walker this season, hasn't been able to do so.


    IDK, not too worried about goals from the D corps and I’m also interested specifically because he’s offensive defenseman so I don’t really care about his defense. It’s a pure upside bet that doesn’t cost anything.
    3 déc. 2021 à 14 h 6
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    IDK, not too worried about goals from the D corps and I’m also interested specifically because he’s offensive defenseman so I don’t really care about his defense. It’s a pure upside bet that doesn’t cost anything.


    If you're not worried about goals from defensemen and don't care if he's bad at defense, then I'll happily join the Wild. I guarantee I won't score any goals and will be pretty terrible at defense.
    3 déc. 2021 à 14 h 10
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    If you're not worried about goals from defensemen and don't care if he's bad at defense, then I'll happily join the Wild. I guarantee I won't score any goals and will be pretty terrible at defense.


    He’s a .5 ppg guy everywhere he’s been. Scoring the goal is not the only thing that matters. He’s still getting on the score sheet. And the best part here is that if he doesn’t work out, you waive him and no harm no foul.
    3 déc. 2021 à 15 h 57
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    If you're not worried about goals from defensemen and don't care if he's bad at defense, then I'll happily join the Wild. I guarantee I won't score any goals and will be pretty terrible at defense.


    Can you play center?
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    3 déc. 2021 à 16 h 13
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    Quoting: JayTea
    Can you play center?


    Technically, yes. I'm actually halfway decent at faceoffs in my beer league, during the games when I'm not playing goalie.
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    3 déc. 2021 à 16 h 16
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    Technically, yes. I'm actually halfway decent at faceoffs in my beer league, during the games when I'm not playing goalie.


    You can play goal too?!?!?
    3 déc. 2021 à 16 h 30
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    MN needs no more LHS d-men.
    3 déc. 2021 à 16 h 33
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    You can play goal too?!?!?


    I played goalie in college at a pretty high level, but that was 20 years and 75 lbs ago. If I hit the gym, there'd probably be worse options for an emergency backup goaltender.
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    3 déc. 2021 à 17 h 54
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    Quoting: wabit
    MN needs no more LHS d-men.


    IDK. Just because he’s a left shot doesn’t preclude him from playing the right side. But MIN does need defenders in the upcoming years. You’re getting a guy with team control that’s shown the ability to score and is at an age where his production could peak a little. The opportunity cost here is Jodie Benn since I’m talking about a 6/7 D man, not a spot in the top 4.

    I just don’t see the down side.
    3 déc. 2021 à 18 h 1
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    IDK. Just because he’s a left shot doesn’t preclude him from playing the right side. But MIN does need defenders in the upcoming years. You’re getting a guy with team control that’s shown the ability to score and is at an age where his production could peak a little. The opportunity cost here is Jodie Benn since I’m talking about a 6/7 D man, not a spot in the top 4.

    I just don’t see the down side.


    He can't play next to Dumba, Spurgeon, or Addison and have a successful pairing, since none of them can carry a weaker d-man.
    3 déc. 2021 à 18 h 16
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    Quoting: wabit
    He can't play next to Dumba, Spurgeon, or Addison and have a successful pairing, since none of them can carry a weaker d-man.


    Spurgeon carried Suter the last 3 years he was here. What are you talking about.

    Suter was definitely the *weaker* defenseman of that pairing, and was hidden in large part due to Spurgeon carrying him all those years.
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    3 déc. 2021 à 19 h 3
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    Quoting: RazWild
    Spurgeon carried Suter the last 3 years he was here. What are you talking about.


    That is so funny when people say this. Suter has always done the heavy lifting in the d-zone, can actually run a PP, and put up more points than Spurgeon every year (except last year).

    Spurgeon is a fancy stats darling that the on ice results just don't match. The team doesn't miss him at all when he's out. What's really sad is Goli/Merrill has been a better pairing than Goli/Spurgeon this season.
    3 déc. 2021 à 19 h 30
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    Quoting: wabit
    That is so funny when people say this. Suter has always done the heavy lifting in the d-zone, can actually run a PP, and put up more points than Spurgeon every year (except last year).

    Spurgeon is a fancy stats darling that the on ice results just don't match. The team doesn't miss him at all when he's out. What's really sad is Goli/Merrill has been a better pairing than Goli/Spurgeon this season.


    I hate to break this to you, but the Wild are a fancy stats team. You can twin with their lineup otherwise.
    3 déc. 2021 à 21 h 17
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    I hate to break this to you, but the Wild are a fancy stats team. You can twin with their lineup otherwise.


    And that is how you end up with the PP like MN currently has. Fancy stats are how players like Zucker or Nino end up with votes in the Selke.

    Fancy stats are nice, but when there are very large aberrations between the expected numbers and actual number it needs to be looked at closer. Spurgeon is one of those players; just look at his xgf, xga, and x+/- and the actual gf, ga, and +/-.
    3 déc. 2021 à 21 h 27
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    Quoting: wabit
    And that is how you end up with the PP like MN currently has. Fancy stats are how players like Zucker or Nino end up with votes in the Selke.

    Fancy stats are nice, but when there are very large aberrations between the expected numbers and actual number it needs to be looked at closer. Spurgeon is one of those players; just look at his xgf, xga, and x+/- and the actual gf, ga, and +/-.


    As opposed to the 20% Hartman and Foligno are shooting for the first time in their lives at the back end of their 20s? Minnesota is actually way above their xG this year, extreme luck. The best way to be competitive on a limited budget when you have limited star players is to play a system that tilts the ice in your favor. That’s fancy stats in a nutshell.

    If/when depth in star power comes, I’ll care more about the regular +/-. But until then, I’d rather my team understands their personnel and puts them in a position to succeed. Ala fancy stats.
    3 déc. 2021 à 22 h 18
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    As opposed to the 20% Hartman and Foligno are shooting for the first time in their lives at the back end of their 20s? Minnesota is actually way above their xG this year, extreme luck. The best way to be competitive on a limited budget when you have limited star players is to play a system that tilts the ice in your favor. That’s fancy stats in a nutshell.

    If/when depth in star power comes, I’ll care more about the regular +/-. But until then, I’d rather my team understands their personnel and puts them in a position to succeed. Ala fancy stats.


    That's the problem. Spurgeon is part of the reason there is a tight budget. He's a $7.5m cap hit playing the least amount of 5v5 time of any of the regular d-men on the team (even before the 3 min game where he was injured).

    If they were really putting the best team on the ice every night Rask would not be in the pressbox at all. It would be Bjugstad.

    Hartman is at 15.5 s%. It's high, but he did have an 11.2% in CHI when he got time as a skill player, not just a grinder. He's also shooting the puck a lot more than normal.
    Foligno is actually down from his s% from last year. He doesn't take a lot of shots, but when he does they all seem to come from very high danger areas.
    The Pitlick and Fiala s% are the completely unsustainable ones.

    Last year Fiala, Foligno and Hartman had a 13.8 s% combined. So far this year they have a combined 12.6 s%; which is about what should be expected for that trio. Fiala will heat up and the other 2 cool off, but the overall s% from then should stay about the same for the season.
     
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