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Jakob Chychrun to LA

Créé par: nintendofan721
Équipe: 2021-22 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2021
Publié: 16 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The Kings are in need for a left defenseman, and I think Chychrun would be a good fit for them. Thoughts on this trade?
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  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
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16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 3
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If LA is close to playoff contention...do it
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16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 7
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If they need an LD, Girard's name was on the block for the Eichel trade. Now he's playing really well and on a pretty good contract so his value might be pretty decent right now too.
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16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 8
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Solid framework. Az probably wants the 23 1st as well, then other minor pieces going each way I would guess would be exchanged
16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 18
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I would love it, but we'd have to add something else. Not another first, though.
16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 30
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Less than zero chance with that offer.
16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 50
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Quoting: mokumboi
Less than zero chance with that offer.


Why so harsh

That might be a 5th overall and a 10th overall pick

Obv there's more than 0 chance there
16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 1
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I feel like if Turcotte was really lighting it up they might well accept but with kaliyev moving past him to extents it seems a bit less appealing
16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 1
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Quoting: Radu47
Why so harsh

That might be a 5th overall and a 10th overall pick

Obv there's more than 0 chance there



The shine has fallen from Turcotte's apple a bit. And you can;t just say oh he was 5th overall, that's meaningless at this point. Anderssen was 7th OA, and he sure as hell ain;t worth that anymore. Turcotte is just Turcotte now. Also, I suspect the Kings won't be a lottery team by the end of the season. Even more important, 20 teams would demolish that Chych offer if he was available, which is almost certainly is not.

And, dude, I was not being "harsh". I was being accurate and saying it as dryly as I can. Folks really need to stop mind-reading motive and tone around here.
16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 47
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I like this trade but IF (big if) Arizona wants to move on from Chychrun, I feel like one more piece is needed since he's more established
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16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 49
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Quoting: mokumboi
The shine has fallen from Turcotte's apple a bit. And you can;t just say oh he was 5th overall, that's meaningless at this point. Anderssen was 7th OA, and he sure as hell ain;t worth that anymore. Turcotte is just Turcotte now. Also, I suspect the Kings won't be a lottery team by the end of the season. Even more important, 20 teams would demolish that Chych offer if he was available, which is almost certainly is not.

And, dude, I was not being "harsh". I was being accurate and saying it as dryly as I can. Folks really need to stop mind-reading motive and tone around here.



Quoting: mokumboi
Less than zero chance with that offer.


A negative probability is not possible and you don't need to be so mean about it and IMO thats a decent framework for a trade, a bit more would need to be added though
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16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 50
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I would love it, but we'd have to add something else. Not another first, though.


Turcotte + Faber + 1st + 2nd?
16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 52
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Quoting: csick
Turcotte + Faber + 1st + 2nd?


I can see that tbh but maybe replace the 2 with a 3rd
16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 54
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Quoting: csick
Turcotte + Faber + 1st + 2nd?


Quoting: Abroot
I can see that tbh but maybe replace the 2 with a 3rd


I like the way you guys think. Both sides should definitely be happy with that
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16 nov. 2021 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: Abroot
A negative probability is not possible and you don't need to be so mean about it and IMO thats a decent framework for a trade, a bit more would need to be added though



Oi vey... I was not "being mean" - I was being direct and to the point. Forgive me, I've spent a lot of years around Dutch people. tears of joy

But no, it's not going to come off as a decent framework from Arizona's standpoint, which is the one that matters. Especially coming from a team loaded with young talent like LA. Any deal for Chych is going to hurt bad. This one doesn't.
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16 nov. 2021 à 19 h 56
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Quoting: csick
Turcotte + Faber + 1st + 2nd?


That is a very solid offer...dealing from depth from LAK. And getting ARI two, maybe three cornerstone pieces.
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17 nov. 2021 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: csick
Turcotte + Faber + 1st + 2nd?


Quoting: Abroot
I can see that tbh but maybe replace the 2 with a 3rd


Quoting: QualityTrades1
I like the way you guys think. Both sides should definitely be happy with that


I think that Arizona might be looking for something a little more immediate -- after all, Brock Faber isn't even signed yet. Kale Clague might be the missing piece -- I know it's a small sample, but he already looks like an NHL defenseman. Or an actual roster player like Blake Lizotte or Jaret Anderson-Dolan. I think that we might even pull the trigger if the demand was Rasmus Kupari plus Alex Turcotte plus our 2022 first.
17 nov. 2021 à 11 h 15
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think that Arizona might be looking for something a little more immediate -- after all, Brock Faber isn't even signed yet. Kale Clague might be the missing piece -- I know it's a small sample, but he already looks like an NHL defenseman. Or an actual roster player like Blake Lizotte or Jaret Anderson-Dolan. I think that we might even pull the trigger if the demand was Rasmus Kupari plus Alex Turcotte plus our 2022 first.


Arizona would be crazy to look for more immediate pieces. Let me make the argument why. This team is likely to be Terrible for 2-3 years. You can’t throw these young guys into the fire and try to develop them. I’d rather they develop most of them on an AHL team at once and then bring them up within 1-2 years of each other in 2 phases. Kinda like what Ottawa a few season ago. You can’t play your best young players with guys like Eriksson and other teams cap dumps and expect them to succeed
17 nov. 2021 à 11 h 28
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Arizona would be crazy to look for more immediate pieces. Let me make the argument why. This team is likely to be Terrible for 2-3 years. You can’t throw these young guys into the fire and try to develop them. I’d rather they develop most of them on an AHL team at once and then bring them up within 1-2 years of each other in 2 phases. Kinda like what Ottawa a few season ago. You can’t play your best young players with guys like Eriksson and other teams cap dumps and expect them to succeed


Intersting insight! I'll have to think about it. Right now, it seems dubious to me, because you gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better. (Old guys LOVE bromides!)
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17 nov. 2021 à 11 h 30
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Intersting insight! I'll have to think about it. Right now, it seems dubious to me, because you gotta start somewhere, and the sooner the better. (Old guys LOVE bromides!)


I just think they have a lot of holes on the team, they will get filled with all the picks they have . They just have too few good players right now to bring up the young ones and have them succeed. I’m a bit scared for Hayton’s development on this team
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