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Créé par: Drakin1978
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 13 nov. 2021
Publié: 13 nov. 2021
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i know the Girard trades are getting long in the tooth. With the avs looking for more scoring and a pick or prospect from what i'm reading a 30goal scorer might be what they are looking for. Is my offer too much or not enough? I think its good and fills for both teams
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 31
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pretty darn far off.

If Girard was this easy to trade for it would have happened already. The Avs could have easily had their nose in on Hoffman the many times he was up for trade and UFA in the past.
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 32
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It’s really not enough
Avs would ask Caufield
MTL would never do that
End of the conversation
Maybe if Avs are all in for Toffoli + Chiarot (half retained) + High pick or B+ prospect
13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 35
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Hoffman doesn't really have any value. otherwise teams would have been lining up for him outside his door when he was a free agent. A Drouin for Girard is more likely to happen, but Drouins value is pretty low atm compared to Girard so there would have to be add ons
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 37
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pretty darn far off.

If Girard was this easy to trade for it would have happened already. The Avs could have easily had their nose in on Hoffman the many times he was up for trade and UFA in the past.


i get that but past and present are diffrent. With byrams good play and the lenght and price of sam contract the avs are looking for more scoring and sam was made expendable. If im off im off i understand that but i thinks its closer than you might think
13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 40
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It’s really not enough
Avs would ask Caufield
MTL would never do that
End of the conversation
Maybe if Avs are all in for Toffoli + Chiarot (half retained) + High pick or B+ prospect


I think you are probably the most acurate, toffoli + chairot (1/2) + pickl or prospect

if montreal blows it up girard is what they are looking for on the back end, avs get the scoring they need the depth at d at a better cost
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 40
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A lot
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 41
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A lot


thanks for adding nothing to the conversation
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 43
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Hoffman doesn't really have any value. otherwise teams would have been lining up for him outside his door when he was a free agent. A Drouin for Girard is more likely to happen, but Drouins value is pretty low atm compared to Girard so there would have to be add ons


Drouin's value is essentially negative, but everyone but habs fans will admit it.

I could see something in the realm of Toffoli and Romanov working. Really I don't think MTL has anything that interests the Avs that much.
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13 nov. 2021 à 1 h 44
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Drouin's value is essentially negative, but everyone but habs fans will admit it.

I could see something in the realm of Toffoli and Romanov working. Really I don't think MTL has anything that interests the Avs that much.


thats fair if thats the case, thank you for your ideas and discussion.

I think drouin has value, but in the eyes of the league i would put him as depth neutral ( get possibly a mid-late third for him if a team is looking to add some scoring at deadline) but habs would never accept that so we are stuck with him. We need him to build his value if we want to get anything of value for him in the next year or let him ride out the contract and let him walk.
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13 nov. 2021 à 2 h 6
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It’s embarrassing far off
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13 nov. 2021 à 3 h 17
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Massively. Hoffman is the ultimate one trick pony who plays less defense than Drouin. Just awful.
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13 nov. 2021 à 3 h 18
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thats fair if thats the case, thank you for your ideas and discussion.

I think drouin has value, but in the eyes of the league i would put him as depth neutral ( get possibly a mid-late third for him if a team is looking to add some scoring at deadline) but habs would never accept that so we are stuck with him. We need him to build his value if we want to get anything of value for him in the next year or let him ride out the contract and let him walk.


This is absolutely accurate.
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13 nov. 2021 à 4 h 25
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How far? Light years.
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13 nov. 2021 à 11 h 32
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Hoffman doesn't really have any value. otherwise teams would have been lining up for him outside his door when he was a free agent. A Drouin for Girard is more likely to happen, but Drouins value is pretty low atm compared to Girard so there would have to be add ons


yea drouins value is almost non existent. he was worth less that cale fleury.
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13 nov. 2021 à 12 h 30
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yea drouins value is almost non existent. he was worth less that cale fleury.


We didn't know if he would play again tbh when the expansion draft happened. Not a fair statement to make
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We didn't know if he would play again tbh when the expansion draft happened. Not a fair statement to make

it would be a pretty low risk move with the cost being almost nothing. sounds like no one was interested. besides we still dont know that drouin is healthy and recovered.
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13 nov. 2021 à 13 h 2
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Drouin, Chiarot and Lehkonen, with enough retention to balance the cap, is probably a better return for what Colorado needs. That's some significant reinforcement for any team going into the playoffs.
You could swap Drouin with Toffoli, but he wouldn't be retained.
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15 nov. 2021 à 21 h 11
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Not even in the ballpark. MTL would struggle to put together a trade that would work, however much Habs fans want a French-Canadian Dman.
16 nov. 2021 à 9 h 9
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Not even in the ballpark. MTL would struggle to put together a trade that would work, however much Habs fans want a French-Canadian Dman.


I Think people will be surprised when they move him what his return turns out to be, im not saying my offer will do it lol
tofoli, allen 50% retained, niku/wideman and a second is probably where i would be comfortable but who knows, this gives colarodo everything they are looking for top6 forward, goalie and d-depth
 
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