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Créé par: FilthyMitts05
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 sept. 2021
Publié: 23 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
  3. Lehkonen, Artturi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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2181 500 000 $69 937 977 $597 561 $1 475 000 $11 562 023 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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875 000 $875 000 $
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 7
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That's almost twice Buffalo's asking price, and I already think half this package (Lehkonen, Guhle, 1rst, 2nd), is already too much, especially with Eichel hurt.
23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 8
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Overpay, he just failed his physical and got stripped of the C, Adams waited too long and overplayed his hand.

Realistically take out a first and the second
23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 14
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Too many picks, not enough, (or the right), prospects.

The three firsts are nice but the Sabres will want at least one A-list real player in any Eichel trade. They've made that pretty clear.
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23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 43
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Why pay soo much to dedicate 10 million dollars of precious cap space towards a broken asset? I have a hard time believing the surgery is anything of a sure fix otherwise Buffalo would have done it in an attempt to have him pass the physical to start the year and truly cash in on him.
23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Too many picks, not enough, (or the right), prospects.

The three firsts are nice but the Sabres will want at least one A-list real player in any Eichel trade. They've made that pretty clear.


I agree thats what they want, but the longer this goes the less likely that becomes. I think they will end up somewhere around an offer like that where its a solid prospect who was a late first round pick, with a package of picks and a few nhl contracts to help with Eichels cap.
That being said i dont think its MTL that ends up making that deal.
23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 49
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Too many picks, not enough, (or the right), prospects.

The three firsts are nice but the Sabres will want at least one A-list real player in any Eichel trade. They've made that pretty clear.


That's Kaiden Guhle
23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: joesunsunjoe
That's Kaiden Guhle


That won't do it. It would have to be Ghule+ and picks.

I don't expect Habs fans to accept that, (and that is totally okay), but its the reality.
23 sept. 2021 à 9 h 55
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I agree thats what they want, but the longer this goes the less likely that becomes. I think they will end up somewhere around an offer like that where its a solid prospect who was a late first round pick, with a package of picks and a few nhl contracts to help with Eichels cap.
That being said i dont think its MTL that ends up making that deal.


I think you are probably right. I don't see Montreal as an "ideal" trading partner for Jack Eichel to be honest. It would likely cost more than they are prepared to offer.

Buffalo HAS to get this right, or it will set them back another ten years.
23 sept. 2021 à 10 h 5
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I think you are probably right. I don't see Montreal as an "ideal" trading partner for Jack Eichel to be honest. It would likely cost more than they are prepared to offer.

Buffalo HAS to get this right, or it will set them back another ten years.


Agreed that this is a very key move for the future of their team, that being said i have very little confidence that they will get it right especially given that all the picks and prospects they get back still have to be properly developed. I know its an unpopular opinion but if i was buffalo i will be loading up on as many assets as possible in this deal, instead of one key prospect, because there's so much that they need and you cant assume you are going to hit on all your picks even if they are first rounders.
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24 sept. 2021 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: Chabotrrorr
That's almost twice Buffalo's asking price...Realistically take out a first and the second
Quoting: Trevorchef
Too many picks, not enough, (or the right), prospects...
Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
I agree thats what they want...
Quoting: joesunsunjoe
That's Kaiden Guhle
Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
Agreed that this is a very key move for the future of their team...
What prospects or players do the Sabres have:
LW: Skinner (yes he will turn it around with a new coach), Olofsson (he does excel at PP but he did well was on pace to 20 goals without jack), Bjork, Asplund and Caggiula. Prospects Rosen and Peterka.
Center: Cozens, Mittelstadt, Girgensons and Eakin. Prospects Ruotsalainen.
RW: Thompson, Hinostroza, Okposo. Prospects Quinn
LHD: Dahlin, Butcher, Hagg. Prospects Power, Bryson, Samuelsson, Johnson
RHD: Jokiharju, Miller, Pysyk, Prospects Laaksonen
GK: Anderson, Dell. Prospects, Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, Levi.
I put a bold on the areas the need to be filled.
Lehkonen, Veteran LW, Buffalo's strongest NHL position
Guhle, Buffalo's deepest and best prospects
Armia, Buffalo weakest NHL and prospect position.
2023 1st round pick (MTL) and 2024 1st round pick (MTL) At this point, I find it hard to believe Buffalo would want to wait the 5 or 6 years for a draft pick to join the NHL team
So while there are seven pieces to this trade, only three fill the holes in the Buffalo rebuild, Armia and the two 2022 draft picks.
@Trevorchef said it best "Too many picks, not enough, (or the right), prospects." I hope the summary of the Sabres above explains why he is 100% accurate.
So if Montreal really wants Eichel they will not give up the pieces that Buffalo needs.
Please look at Buffalo needs it shouts CENTER and RIGHT WING, Montreal only has one that fits Buffalo's time line and we know the HABS will not do that, nor should they.
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