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Securing the future at centre

Créé par: Acegamer
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 12 sept. 2021
Publié: 12 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Buffalo fans… will this do it?
Bruins fans… hate to trade Lohrei and Lysell but I can’t see any other way to get Eichel.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lohrei, Mason
3800 000 $
Transactions
BOS
  1. Eichel, Jack (3 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Retention done through a 3rd party for the 2nd round pick.
BUF
  1. Lohrei, Mason
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
  3. Lysell, Fabian
  4. Moore, John
  5. Wagner, Chris
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Debrusk - Potential top 6 LW
Lohrei - Boston’s top D Prospect (top 4)
Lysell - Boston’s top wing prospect (top 6)
Moore - Cap Dump but could be a decent bottom pair and good veteran when healthy.
Wagner - solid energy bottom 6 guy - good leader.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 560 674 $1 956 507 $125 000 $939 326 $
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
AG, C, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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3 687 500 $3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 3
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance125 000 $$125K)
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RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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725 000 $725 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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12 sept. 2021 à 9 h 7
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Ah yes. 3m in dead cap for 5 years... for a 2nd. Totally doable.

And that package doesn't get you Eichel. Maybe if you add two more 1sts to it.
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12 sept. 2021 à 9 h 11
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No one is retaining 9 million for a 2nd. And the Eichel is about one or 2 1st round picks short. Sabres do not need bottom 6 players and potential top 6 forwards who are not cost controlled for years.
12 sept. 2021 à 9 h 15
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I disagree with other comments that should be more than enough to get eichel but will need to pony up significantly for that third party retention because of the term.
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12 sept. 2021 à 9 h 27
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Quoting: mikearky
No one is retaining 9 million for a 2nd. And the Eichel is about one or 2 1st round picks short. Sabres do not need bottom 6 players and potential top 6 forwards who are not cost controlled for years.


3x5 is 15mil
Which just makes it even worse
12 sept. 2021 à 9 h 31
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Its not enough. Buffalo needs higher end prospects or young players, mostly forwards. And the third team would be retaining 15 million (3 million, 5 years). You are welcome to value picks as you like, i figure a mid-first is worth about 5 million, so i would say, if you can get anybody to do it, it should cost about 3 firsts just for the third party retention.

Edit- nobody is doing that. Buffalo and arizona are probably the only teams willing to pay actual money to help teams curcumvent the cap, and they will wanna get something pretty nice for it. The sabres, i would hope, plan to be better in 3 years, which means all of the dead money retention crap would have to be off the books by the time they have to pay players to hopefully help them win games.
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12 sept. 2021 à 9 h 33
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A 2nd round pick does not get you $15 million in cap space. That’ll cost 2 1sts and a 2nd at least.
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12 sept. 2021 à 10 h 24
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A second may get you 3 million retention for a year. I think it's a little.light but let's say it flies.

So then it costs you FIVE seconds. Not one. One for each year

And the eichel trade is pretty crappy.

And your second depth is still poor for the future as Bergeron is in his mid 30s so you still only have one c for the future.
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12 sept. 2021 à 10 h 28
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Yup you're right, you can't see any other way to get Eichel bc there is none that makes sense for BOS. Only scenario that makes sense is BOS getting him when hes a FA in 5yrs.
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12 sept. 2021 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: Timmah007
I disagree with other comments that should be more than enough to get eichel but will need to pony up significantly for that third party retention because of the term.


So
DeBrusk = 2 2nds
Lysell = 1st
Lohrei = 2nd
Moore = -2nd
Wagner = 5th
1st
2nd

Does that even equal the 4 1sts for what Eichel cost with zero retention? Probably not.

If you think a bunch of 2nds can make up the missing value then Arizona can just buy Shane Wright and still keep their 2nd OA
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12 sept. 2021 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
So
DeBrusk = 2 2nds
Lysell = 1st
Lohrei = 2nd
Moore = -2nd
Wagner = 5th
1st
2nd

Does that even equal the 4 1sts for what Eichel cost with zero retention? Probably not.

If you think a bunch of 2nds can make up the missing value then Arizona can just buy Shane Wright and still keep their 2nd OA


Well Buffalo is clearly shooting for the stars thinking getting four first for eichel in the first place. Need to be realistic they aren’t getting that ask for a guy still requiring a very significant surgery. This offer is as good as I see it getting.
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12 sept. 2021 à 11 h 43
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Well Buffalo is clearly shooting for the stars thinking getting four first for eichel in the first place. Need to be realistic they aren’t getting that ask for a guy still requiring a very significant surgery. This offer is as good as I see it getting.


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12 sept. 2021 à 18 h 8
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Sure man, you are wrong but thats ok. Believe what you want


I guarantee that Buffalo doesn’t get 4 firsts or close to that value. Is he worth it. Yes. But there are too many unknowns with his injury and Buffalo doesn’t have the leverage because he wants to leave. If they hold out too long his NMC sets in and things get worst for them. They need to trade him before the NMC kicks in. Or they are going to be paying 10Mil for nothing.
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12 sept. 2021 à 22 h 45
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I guarantee that Buffalo doesn’t get 4 firsts or close to that value. Is he worth it. Yes. But there are too many unknowns with his injury and Buffalo doesn’t have the leverage because he wants to leave. If they hold out too long his NMC sets in and things get worst for them. They need to trade him before the NMC kicks in. Or they are going to be paying 10Mil for nothing.


Will they get 4 1st, NO. But they will get a better offer, I would bet. And nobody is taking on that retention for one 2nd. Please explain why they would?
 
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